This post will piss many of you off and probably get In Mala Fide pruned from a few blogrolls. I don’t care. Some things just need to be said.
***
I remember the first time a woman attacked me.
It was roughly a decade ago. I was having the typical beta lovers’ spat — I was angry that my girlfriend didn’t want to hang out and she was disgusted by my clinginess. We yelled at each other for twenty minutes before I gave up and decided to leave. As I opened her door, I turned my head just in time for her soccer cleat to hit me full on in the face.
I was lucky. If I’d been hit a inch or so to the left, I could have been blinded for life. Instead, my right eye was swollen shut for a week.
As I collapsed screaming in pain, my girlfriend switched from raging tiger bitch to demure kitten. “Omigod Ferd, are you all right? I’m so sorry! I didn’t mean to hit you!” She accompanied me to the free clinic, where the nurse gave me an icepack to bring the swelling down. For the next week, whenever someone asked me what the hell happened, I told them I was mugged — a ridiculous face-saving lie, because there was no violent crime in this placid Champlain Valley town. Nobody was cruel enough to say the truth to my face.
But I couldn’t tell them I’d been maimed by a woman.
***
I have absolutely zero sympathy for women who are the victims of domestic violence, for a multitude of reasons. Most notably, the constant hand-wringing about violence against women puts the lie to the feminist claim that gender is just a social construct. If women have all the same rights and responsibilities as men, if denying privileges to someone because of the shape of their genitals is morally wrong, then that means there’s nothing wrong with bashing a woman’s face in — or, more accurately, it’s no more wrong than bashing a man’s face in. “Teach your son that all violence against women is wrong.” What if she’s coming at me with a kitchen knife? Do I get to defend myself or does the code of chivalry require me to stand there and let her stab me through the heart?
But more importantly, the reason I don’t care about women who are beaten by their men is because they put themselves in that situation. Spengler’s Universal Law of Gender Parity:
In every corner of the world and in every epoch of history, the men and women of every culture deserve each other.
Women are masters of refusing to accept the consequences of their own behavior. Girls who habitually end up in relationships with abusive men do so because they are attracted to men who abuse them. Of course, point this out and the rationalizations will sputter forth: “He wasn’t like that when we first started dating! He only started abusing me after we got married/moved in together!” Can it. Jekyll/Hyde transformations are impossible for anyone to pull off. People can change, but change is slow and incremental; it doesn’t happen overnight, nor after a wedding. If you paid attention, you could have seen signs that your man was an abuser, but you ignored them because unconsciously, that’s what turns you on, what gets you wet.
Finally, I have no sympathy for most abused women because a great many of them deliberately incite their men into attacking them, if not by being physically abusive themselves, then by creating drama. Extreme cases of this are diagnosed as borderline personality disorder, but a great percentage of the normal female population engages in this behavior as a matter of course. I found this out the hard way.
***
Rewind back to my first months out of college. I’d reluctantly moved back home after getting a semi-decent job loading trucks for a certain package delivery company. Not long after, I fell in with a sophomore at one of the local colleges, Constance, and she convinced me to move in with her. Constance was a little on the hirsute side and a bit chubby, but she had great tits, a nice plump ass, and most importantly, she was a demon in the sack. I’m talking nails digging into my butt-cheeks, bedsheet-staining, screaming loud enough to wake the neighbors sex. Between our jobs, we could eke out a decent living in the bohemian district, right by the college and not far from downtown and its (pathetic, overhyped) nightlife.
Domestic tranquility was short-lived. Not long into autumn, I was cut from my full-time position and reduced to working part-time on the second shift (5pm-11pm). Constance had to beg her parents for an allowance so we could make ends meet. I would’ve rather died then gone to my parents for a handout, let alone move back in with them. She had me by the balls financially, and she knew it. Sex dropped off, replaced by increasingly heated arguments.
I’d assumed an asshole persona during my college life of casual sex and booze, but I was reverting back to beta in an LTR. I had no idea what to do, so I dealt with Constance the way my dad had dealt with my mom whenever she wanted to argue — avoidance and acquiescence, hoping she’d just shut up and leave me alone. All I did was make her angrier and more strident. Finally, things came to a head.
I was getting ready to go to work one night when Constance started unloading on me. I don’t remember the exact details of how it started, but it quickly devolved into her ranting about how I was always slinking off with my friends and I wasn’t spending any time with her. I tried my usual avoidance-cowardice strategy, but she would have none of it.
“Look baby, I have to go to work —”
“Oh no no no, you’re NOT running off like you always do!”
“Can’t this wait —”
“SHUT UP YOU ASSHOLE! LISTEN TO ME!”
I tried to turn and leave, but she ran up to me and shoved me, all the while screaming at the top of her lungs: “I am tired of this and that and yadda yadda yadda…”
I’m a calm guy, very slow to anger. But Constance’s abuse snapped me. I wasn’t going to become my father.
“I AM SICK OF YOU!” I bellowed.
THWAPP!
“Aaugh!”
Constance recoiled as I smacked her across the face. Both of us went silent. She stared at me, nursing her wounded cheek, her strident pose replaced with a look of terror. I just stood there, flitting between looking at my outstretched hand and her fearful gaze.
“I’m going to work,” I broke the silence, turning around to leave. She said nothing.
The gravity of what I’d done didn’t hit me until I was in the car. God, I am so fucked. She’s gonna call the cops. The neighbors are gonna call the cops, if they haven’t already. By the time I pulled into the parking lot, my hands were trembling.
I couldn’t concentrate that night. It felt like I was having an ulcer. During my dinner break, I could barely eat, picking at my ham-and-cheese sandwich and staring into space. My co-workers sensed something was wrong, but I just brushed them off. Then, just as we were about to go back to work, the announcement boomed over the intercom.
“FERDINAND BARDAMU, PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT OFFICE ASAP. FERDINAND TO THE FRONT OFFICE ASAP.”
My stomach dropped into my knees. Here it comes. “Mr. Bardamu, you are under arrest. You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.” My mug shot on the front page of the local paper, interviews with all my childhood friends and teachers. “Ferd was such a good kid growing up, I don’t know what happened to him.” I trudged up to the front office as my stomach twisted into knots.
I entered the lobby to find Constance waiting by the front desk. There were no cops. I zeroed in on her cheek; no evidence of my assault remained on her cinnamon-colored skin.
“I think we should take this outside,” she said.
“Yeah.”
I followed her out to the parking lot, craning my neck to look for cops. None in sight.
“Look Ferd, I wanted to apologize —”
“Wait, what?” I stammered incredulously.
“I said I’m sorry!” she yelled, a note of humility in her voice. I shut up.
“Look, after you left, I realized that I’ve been a gigantic bitch to you. I’ve been treating you like crap, but it wasn’t until now that I realized what I was doing… I’m sorry.”
“Uh…” I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.
“Ferd, we’ve… you’ve, I know you’ve been under a lot of stress lately.” She bit her tongue. “I want to make this relationship work. I want to make US work.”
“I… thanks,” I gasped, still in disbelief. “You’re not calling the police?”
“No,” Constance replied. “Matt and Jessica [our next-door neighbors] heard us yelling and came over after you left. I talked them down.”
“Connie,” I came down to earth, “I shouldn’t have hit you like that. I don’t know what came over me.”
“No, it’s fine,” she swatted me down, a bit of irritation in her voice. You’re off the hook, dipshit! Don’t fuck this up! “Well, you’ve probably got to get back to work.”
“Right. Well, see ya.”
I gave her a quick peck on the lips and went back inside. Did that really just happen?
Later that night, after I came home, we had sex for the first time in two weeks — the most intense make-up sex I’ve ever had in my life. I pounded her so vigorously I knocked one of the support slats loose, causing the middle part of the bed to cave in. When we were done, the sheets were so drenched with her cum they looked like they’d been through the washer. God knows everyone in the building must’ve heard us. “AAAGGG, FUCK ME! OH GOD! Ferd…”
The relationship petered out not long after, but we were on mostly amiable terms when it ended. I drifted out of contact with Constance when I moved to Albany; not sure what she’s doing now.
***
Despite all this, I do NOT recommend you start hitting the girls in your rotation, mainly because the risks are too great. For every one girl who’ll pounce on your dick after a good backhand, there are three more who’ll dial 911 without a second thought. I got lucky. But unless you exclusively fuck single moms, cougars and spinsters, you’ve likely had girls either try to physically hurt you or bait you into hitting them. Young women (teens to early twenties), sexually voracious girls, and high-T (check the digit ratio!) girls are all more likely to be abusive.
Ever wonder why spanking is the preferred form of corporal punishment for children? If the sole purpose of hitting a disobedient child is to inflict physical pain, why not just uppercut the little shit in the jaw (assume we lived in a society where physically beating your children was acceptable)? Or why not just smack the brat with a two by four plank of wood? Why go to all the effort of yanking his pants down and wearing your palm out on his dirty ass-cheeks? The answer is that corporal punishment isn’t merely about pain, it’s about humiliation. Exposing a kid’s bare buttocks for all the world to see is about making him feel weak and powerless, reminding him who’s in charge. (By the way, this humiliation aspect is why so many women are turned on by getting spanked. Nothing says “submission” like being bent over your man’s knees, totally exposed and helpless against his punishing blows…)
It’s the same when it comes to disciplining women. Slapping a girl across the face isn’t just about hurting her, it’s a kind of neg. It says, “I can crush you like an insect, but you aren’t worth the effort.” It’s a tacit acknowledgment that she’s weaker than you, beneath you, and if she crosses you again, you’ll put her in the hospital. You treat her like she’s a child throwing a temper tantrum, not an equal.
***
A couple months back, career blogger and self-admitted Aspie Penelope Trunk posted a picture of a bruise her husband gave her during an argument:
I took the kids and went to a hotel so I could have time to think. I think I need to move into a hotel for a month.
The Farmer told me that he will not beat me up any more if I do not make him stay up late talking to me.
If you asked him why he is still being violent to me, he would tell you that I’m impossible to live with. That I never stop talking. That I never leave him alone. How he can’t get any peace and quiet in his own house. That’s what he’d tell you.
And he’d tell you that I should be medicated.
Trunk’s not stupid. She knows full well that she’s deliberately enraging her husband, baiting him into beating the stuffing out of her. She gets off on the drama and the conflict. Just look at that picture; it should be in the dictionary next to the entry for “attention whore.” The bruise is barely in frame, the emphasis being on Trunk’s softening middle-aged tucus. Not only does Trunk get off on manipulating her husband into a violent rage, she gets off on manipulating her readers into sympathizing with her. Some white-knighting dorks even called the police on her behalf.
And how did Penelope reward her loyal beta orbiters and e-girlfriends? By telling them to kiss her cougar ass:
Blog commenters will argue against this idea by telling me not to change because It’s not my fault.
But really, how do they know? We know that I grew up in a home where there was lots of violence. So it’s likely that I will be in that kind of house when I’m an adult. And surely it’s possible that I am contributing to the mix since I am statistically likely to create a violent household. Here’s another thing: You don’t know what I did leading up to the bruise in the photo.
This post is the equivalent of a Bond villain’s expository monologue. Penelope is thrashing her readers around like a potbellied hick thrashing his meth-head wife around the double-wide, and they just sit there and beg for more.
Did you know that Rihanna’s been hooking up with Chris Brown, the man who nearly beat her into a coma, for a year now? And that Brown’s got his own posse of fangirls who love him in spite of his violent predilections? Damn, it’s almost like some girls like this “domestic violence” thing!
This is why I have no sympathy for battered women. Far too many of them are like Penelope Trunk — conniving, manipulative cunts who wear their men down for the gina tingles, then trick bystanders into squirting tears to their sob stories. They are slapped, punched, and kicked because they inflict emotional violence on their husbands and boyfriends, fueling a never-ending cycle of drama and pain. They are just as abusive and twisted as the thugs and jerks they get wet for.
They deserve each other.
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I watched the mother of my best friend growing up chase her 1st husband around for 2 hours yelling at him before he smacked her. She’s now married to a guy who refuses to hit her no mater how much she pushes him and she’s deeply unhappy.
I can’t tell the guy to smack that bitch up due to the popo but gods know she would be a lot happier if he would smack her up.
This is one of the posts that I feel squeamish agreeing with, but I have to.
Bitches love the drama. I’m happy for my younger brother, his wife seems to be mostly immune to that disease.
Amen. There have been many times in my life where I knew that the perfect response to a woman’s ridiculous behavior was a stinging slap across the face (not bruising, not damaging, not dangerous), but stinging. Unfortunately, the risk of police intervention is too great. And of course it’s unfortunate not just for the man but for the woman as well. A stinging slap across the face reassures the woman deep in her biology that she’s got a good strong man that won’t take any shit. Anything less leaves the impression of weakness in her mind. Once during a fight with a girlfriend I managed to remain calm, I went from yelling to ignoring her. It took enormous self-control on my part to calm myself down. As I de-escalated and quit yelling back at her, she went from being mad to being repulsed. In a disgusted voice she called me weak. A stinging slap across the face likely would have had the opposite effect, it would have inspired respect, calmed her down, etc.
As for the guys that go too far and inflict serious violence, as you say, the women all too often stick around and stick around and stick around. I’ve seen it myself. The first time you get beat up you either leave him or you accept responsibility for what happens the next time.
LOL. I was recently lambasted by some feminists for insisting that Nicole Simpson and Whitney Houston enjoy being beaten. They want and need it. A battered woman either runs or stays forvever.
Ike and Tina, Bobby and Whitney. The perfect symbiosis of pimp and whore. I have often noted that the most beautiful women go with the most violent men. There is something about the beatings a pimp gives and the fidelity of his whore. I remember that movie Leaving Las Vegas. Powerful stuff.
Agreed.
I’d go so far as to say that if domestic murder was honestly researched, at least half of them would follow this pattern:
1. Drama queen starts dating clearly unsuitable man for the tingle
2. DQ begins a program of escalating verbal abuse until CUM begins hitting her
3. On occasion CUM returns home drunk and DQ initiates slanging match until slapped
4. Eventually she attacks him when drunk with a weapon, he beats her, she attempts to wound his pride with jibes of “do it you pussy, you haven’t got the balls”
5. CUM kills her
However there must be a reaction against western feminism, it is not violence.
http://spiritofnature99.blogspot.com/
Anyone who deletes you from their blog roll for this article is a pussy. I took an alarm clock to the side of the head from a second story apartment once. If I wasn’t outside in the parkinglot, I would have snapped her neck.
My infraction? I had agreed to double date with her best friend, she moved the date we agreed on to a night I had commitments, and she flipped out when I canceled with *4 days notice*.
I also took a punch to the jaw from a little Jew girl because I said her fat sister looked fat in her wedding dress.
Women don’t want equality. The want privilege.
I personally have never laid a hand on a woman, but only because it’s illegal. 75% of societies ills could be cured if women had physical consequences for their actions like men do.
Since physical violence against women is illegal, I have perfected the art of psychological warfare. I think I’m going to post on this in a few weeks. Once again, thanks forthe inspiration.
In general, I agree. The domestic violence industry is a money making racket for its support industry (legal system, sociologists, counselors, university studies, etc.) and for women who use it to get their innocent husbands out of the way. For the truly exceptional and rare case where a man beats his wife out of the blue, an unjust system has been set up that takes down many more innocents.
And it has to be said that some wives do need discipline. Respect also entails a bit of fear. Recall the scene “Here’s a good stick, to beat the lovely lady!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IftG_SBjB6I
FB,
You are being too nice when you say that “Far too many of them are like Penelope Trunk — conniving, manipulative cunts who wear their men down for the gina tingles, then trick bystanders into squirting tears to their sob stories”.
It is actually somewhat worse than that because they are doing it (often subconsciously) for their own amusement. Think of it as their own little reality show, where they get to be the center of attention and excitement even if it destroys the lives of other people.
Good stuff. The feminist mythology around domestic violence is one of the biggest lies of our time.
What a rational, reasonable point of view. Anyone who throws you off their blogroll because of this is a raving moron. Or a damned liberal. Same thing.
I figured as much. The men here know all about PU and the MRM.
I want to see what Alte and Sophia have to say. Will they back the sisterhood or are they realists?
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/
There are many pearls of wisdom on this site that teaches men how to respond to shit tests and how to project an aura of control and strength.
This aura would act as a disincentive to uppitiness in that you imply severe consequences without having to actually act on them.
Lord I can only imagine the hell a man would go through if he threw a cleat at a woman’s face. It’s amazing what they get away with. Even if you’d complained to the police about that she’d get off easy I’d imagine.
I definitely think there are some women who’s psychology makes them provoke men to anger and even violence. They want to be dominated and controlled, put in their place. I think some only believe, in their twisted way, that you care if they can get an intense emotional reaction out of a man. Some don’t know what else to respond to other than anger. And yet society deems it’s the man’s place to exercise self-control at all times. Sometimes that’s clearly an unreasonable request. And besides, no man can see into the future. The girl you start seeing today may turn out to be full-on looney tunes and throw shit at you, or try to stab you. Self-defense isn’t violence, imo. The adage, “her right to throw a soccer cleat ends at my face” is appropriate here. In my view, the best thing to do is get away from these types of women as soon as you realize they’re batshit crazy. Of course that’s easier said than done, especially when they’re not like that all the time. Ultimately, that kind of relationship seems doomed though.
It’s not that they deserve each other, it’s that emotional injury should be answered by physical injury. That’s the only way to accomplish justice.
I agree with the article.
If challenged, divert away from the violence part and onto the _DESERVED CONTROL FOR BAD BEHAVIOR_ part.
Explain it is female instinct to instigate male stress (most often occurring through dalliance/disrespect games). If male fails the test he will be cuckolded. Mock the nay-sayers for being dumb.
I’m not pissed off by this blog. In fact, I say good on you for writing it, and say that I unequivocally agree. I also agree that women will go out of their way to provoke violence because they know they can get away with it.
If a woman wants to start acting like a man, brandishing knives and talking dangerously, she’ll get the equality feminists are always whining about. A close friend of mine had his then-girlfriend pull a knife on him. He’s a rather big guy – a security guard and a MMA fighter. Well for so much as trying to disarm a “poor helpless woman” he’s now in jail. Doesn’t matter that she pulled a knife – he must have made her do it. Doesn’t matter that he actually got hurt worse than she did, it was still his fault.
In the end it comes back to the psychology of leftism: the leftists are troubled by the idea that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men, hence as the percieved “victim,” women are perfect creatures, while men can only do wrong.
On a similar note, I have not an ounce of sympathy for street-thugs who incite innocent people into fighting them.
Gotta love them double standards. This one in particular I use in my arguments against my towns young feminists.
They start going on about “equality” and other assorted bullshit, and I usually say:
“Alright then, tell me, what if you were to punch me in the face, or kick me in the balls right now? What would happen to you?
There may be some gasps, or a “WTF?” at most, but overall you would suffer no repercussions.
Now, what if, instead, I punched you in the face or kicked you in the cunt? What would happen?
Every single person within a 20 foot radius would be on my ass in a heartbeat.”
I’ve actually gotten a few of the cunts to shut the fuck up at this point. It’s amazing.
I’ve been punched by women before, and I’m not too proud to admit that they were rather hard punches, and all that happened were chuckles from people around me. Modern Western women, especially middle class *on up* ones, are some of the most protected, privileged groups of people on the face of the planet.
Anybody who de-blog-rolls you for this needs to have their balls drop.
This post has engendered far less hate then I thought it would.
honest piece
the chief wedge of Sixties/Seventies feminism was There is No Excuse for Domestic Violence by which, of course, was meant females can do whatever they wish to males, but if males raise their hands, jail
removing the last shred of defense that husbands had led inexorably to our full-on matriarchy, in which physical punishment of males by females or their proxies (courts, cops, government etc) is not only acceptable but celebrated, profitable, and productive of prison-labor to make new government office equipment so more males can be korreckted
as always in the western demonocracies, what is implemented for “safety” and “security” turns into totalitarianism, the dis-empowerment of boys and men, and the dissolution of the family unit
“This post has engendered far less hate then I thought it would.”
because you’re right, everyone knows it, we were all just too cowed to say it.
by the way, great piece. instant classic. standing ovation.
@ryu
“I want to see what Alte and Sophia have to say. Will they back the sisterhood or are they realists?”
lol why do you even care?
A TIMELY REMINDER.
http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have/
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9RuP1QMXOs&w=420&h=315
Disciplining a wife is allowed for explicitly under Shari’ah- as long as the husband does not leave any marks on the face. Absolutely no stigma attached to the practice – as long as it doesn’t slip into wanton cruelty.
Any woman that hits a man hard enough to bruise or mark a man opens herself up to the Unknown.
See, this is why you need to do some heavy research into a chick and spend your sweet tine getting to know them before you get into anything more serious than just dating. You don’t know when they’re going to go nuts.
Ferd, I find violence repellent, but I cannot refute any of what you’re saying in this article. And frankly, I take Spengler’s Law as pure gold.
I took a different spin on it, though -
http://beijaflorbeyondthesunset.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/spenglers-law/
Great article FB! Totally true (unfortunately) too. I read a novel called Fire and Rain by Harold Covington. There is a scene in it where a woman is having an affair with her cop brother in law and she says she knows he knows how pimps inflict injuries on their hos without leaving physical proof. Just for curiosity’s sack does anyone know how to do this?
The woman in the novel wanted her lover/brother in law to torture her for her sexual pleasure by the way.
Cengiz,
Do you really need Shariah to teach you what ought to be obviously done?
Agree with it all, though I could do without the visions of a fat hairy woman staining the bed with her fluids and screaming. Women who make a big ruckus out of sex and do anything but moan loudly are just fake-ass attention whores.
The truth is that sometimes it’s best for a man to hit his woman to get her to behave, just like Sean Connery said. There are two main problems today: 1) Society has taught men to be ashamed for disciplining their women, and 2) Men with guns are always at the ready to take men away who dare discipline their women. So the actual effect of this is that women have become more abusive, more controlling, more crazy in relationships, because few men are willing to lay down the law with them. So they keep going on in their lives, entitled, never being called on their bullshit, never being disciplined like they need to be. Just as you must discipline a child, you must sometimes discipline a woman. When a man is not able to discipline his child, the child misbehaves, he loses control of the household, and he is not respected. The same happens when a man is not able to discipline his woman. Instead of just giving her a slap when she’s being ridiculous, you have to play fucking mind games nowadays, and they are never as effective. You have to remain the alpha male if you want her to respect you, and it is a pain in the ass to do that when you can’t smack her even when she KNOWS she’s being ridiculous. Just another example of politically correct “progressive” bullshit ruining the relationship between men and women and replacing the man as head of household with government intrusion into our lives.
Spengler,
In every corner of the world and in every epoch of history, the men and women of every culture deserve each other.
I don’t agree with this. If this were true, the anti-misandry sphere would not even exist, since the men would be seen as equally bad as modern women.
This ‘sphere exists because women have been behaving much worse than men, and many fathers, boys, and other innocent men have been chewed up by feminism, far worse than any harm that men have been doing to women over the same period.
Excellent post by the way, and comments as well.
“It’s not that they deserve each other, it’s that emotional injury should be answered by physical injury. That’s the only way to accomplish justice.”
Just another example of how backwards today’s world is, that most people do not believe this. Most fools draw the line between verbal attacks and physical. If someone gets in your face and is intentionally trying to cause you emotional “injury”, as you say, depending on the offense, it is completely and utterly appropriate to respond with physical violence. I swear a lot of problems would be solved if the fucking weenies of the world who spend their time harassing people on the internet would just get an elbow to the face once in a while.
You’re probably right TFH. But also consider how many white knights and manginas there are, and how the real reason that women are allowed to behave as they do today is that most men are manginas and white knights. MOST men do deserve MOST women. But when 99% of guys are idiots and 99% of women are whores, and you’re one of the 1% of guys, it’s hard to find one of those 1% of women who aren’t whores, and I CAN’T say that as part of the 1% you DESERVE to be screwed by one of the 99%. These men DESERVE one of those 1%, but they’re unlikely to find one. So yes, MOST men deserve the women they get, but a few men truly do not.
We can also consider whether it’s really men’s or women’s fault that things are the way they are today. We live in a culture that has been thoroughly corrupted (intentionally) to destroy the relationship between men and women, and most men and women are just too busy or too stupid to ever have the time or intelligence to understand this. They are just unthinking sheep following the herd, doing as they’ve been told, unquestioning. Does any man or woman really deserve the world as it is today, ass backwards and insane? Maybe, but maybe not. We’re kind of stuck where we are, though. There’s very little we can do about it. And so if we’re willing to blame ourselves and our ancestors for not being aggressive enough to take control and put an end to the tide of “progressivism”, then yes, we deserve what we got.
I would really like to believe that we could have a world where a good man gets rewarded, but it seems clear that’s just another progressive delusion. Good man get fucked, and evil men rule the world. So in conclusion, we do deserve the world we got, because we were so foolish as to believe that being good would be enough.
I was at a Middle Eastern concert one night, sitting behind two women who kept chitchatting all throughout. At one point I asked them to please keep it down, but then suddenly – the older lady turned around and gave me a dirty and murderous look (Gorgon- or Linda Blair Exorcist-style). I remember feeling a burning pain in the stomach. A friend later explained that she must have given me the “eye” or “nazar” in Persian and that some women are known for literally killing any living thing they praise (plants, pets).
Very provocative…. it IS surprising that this hasn’t generated more controversy. Perhaps this will get linked by a few feminist blogs and that will change though. If that does happen I hope that they check that Jezebel link in the comments above before they start running off at the mouth about how violent men are.
Anyway, some excellent points. I agree that abused women in this day and age don’t deserve a whole lot of sympathy. With all the options available to them for dealing with the situation, you can only assume that they must crave this sort of behavior if they are not gone after the first hit. I think that all the power they have in this situation has left them with a feeling of invulnerability, with the result that there is much less of a disincentive for them to keep the lid on their crazy. The only good option I am see for men who are faced with this behavior is to GTFO as soon as the first soccer cleat hits the face.
There is nothing wrong with this post, it was written honestly and presented in a balanced manner.
Before I begin, I almost nailed the P. Trunk to the wall at my blog in venom, I pulled back my claws since I knew this poor lost soul has problems – who publicly, ***publicly*** displayed her stupidity and family issues on a blog that was not geared towards such emotionalism and “bruised pictures”. I feel sorry for her and wish her insanity the best. But I didn’t care for what she pulled. It was so facebookian of her and everyone lined up 4 her pity party. Only a few called her out for what she really was. Plus as a Christian how can I further beat a dead horse who probably would have “hurt feelings over it.” Like I need that…
There is a class of women who delight in drama or perhaps its all women? Is it the hyperestrogenic effect? I’m not sure…but one must never place their hands on another person in malice. It is risky and a arrangeable visit to the jail since women are the weaker, dumber sex who play the victim or the apologetic hormonally charged GF very well. We must attempt to be nice, kind and defuse fights that could erupt into an accidental altercation.
I have great sympathy for abused and beaten men and women but……..and forgive me in advance, I side with the men on many occasions since men can only handle so much. In P/ Trunk’s case, she wouldn’t shut-up and drove the guy nuts and an accident occurred – not a beating.
So, I give men a free pass when they lose their cool. On the other hand, it is a teachable moment for everyone to take a breather and cool down before something happens.
How ironic that 7man and I just added you (rather belatedly) to our blogroll yesterday. Heh.
Re: spanking; it’s probably the least likely “domestic violence” to get a man charged with anything. I doubt most women would want to go and tell the police “my husband/bf/ONS spanked me” (humiliating, plus probably not going to be taken seriously, which only makes it more humiliating). It’s unlikely to cause injury and a lot of women actually want to be spanked. It’s probably a good test to see how a woman responds to a good, swift, playful smack on the ass.
No doubt I’ll be looked upon with pity by some for these statements. Oh well.
The perception that any thought of this is evil is dramatically reinforced by those with a vested pecuniary interest in maintaining the current lie we live in. The idea is supposed to be so scary, forbidden, and so completely evil that even thinking about it is a crime worse than treason. Such thought crime is never to be tolerated and any discussion better be couched in the terms of non-serious humor with swift “justice” and massive lies as to the causes of what and why it happens. You get the same thing with child support and “dead beat dads” (never moms because of course they don’t exist and should never be spoken of).
The truth *eventually* wins out as it just doesn’t go away. As for critics well I think it is safe to say that those at feministing probably can’t think any lower of you than they already do. Embrace this and know in your heart it means that what they are actually saying is they are desperate to boff you. Heck they get rejected by their vibrators so you’d be quite a step up.
You state that women stay with abusers because they enjoy it and seek them out. I can’t imagine a rational argument that concludes with “all men are different individuals but all women are exactly the same”, although I would love to hear it. Assuming you are going to concede that all women are individuals, just as all men are, then by your logic, all men who end up with abusive women secretly enjoy it. Saying anything else is hypocritical. I’m all for saying that men and women should be treated equally, but let’s not take it to the conclusion that domestic violence is okay. Let’s agree that it’s never okay for anyone against anyone.
“I can’t imagine a rational argument that concludes with “all men are different individuals but all women are exactly the same”, although I would love to hear it.”
lol
wimmin don’t really have consciousness in the way men do
each man is an individual, wimmin are borg/hivemind.
they mostly parrot sounds they have heard others make, in what they believe to be an appropriate context
men anthropomorphize wimmin far too much. this is why men get frustrated by wimmin not thinking with logic, and it’s why every example of human advancement has come from male genius. wimmin just copy, they don’t create.
Another great article by FB. In that spirit:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Rvi7OCNOn_g/Tz8zF9_WjUI/AAAAAAAAAiM/OvAn4kU6-Lo/s1600/Down%2Bwith%2BVAWA.jpg
“I’m all for saying that men and women should be treated equally, but let’s not take it to the conclusion that domestic violence is okay. Let’s agree that it’s never okay for anyone against anyone.”
lol i think we’re long past egal solutions dear.
“let’s just agree …” let’s not.
or, let’s just agree that emotional/psychological manipulation inevitably (and RIGHTLY!) leads to physical response. no man with any kind of self-respect is going to tolerate that kind of shit, and being ‘put in your place’ for attempting it is apparently what wimmin seek. (separates the strong men from the weak)
and that sort of manipulation, for that purpose, is normative female behavior… (let’s just agree that blank slate, like flat earth, is consigned to the dustbin of history…)
so let’s be just as aggressive (or more, as would be logical – strike the root) in controlling wimmin’s emotional abuse/psyops as in controlling men’s INEVITABLE physical response to being fucked around. (a slap is not ‘a beating’ or a ‘battering’, it’s a clear message to stop behaving that way. despite intentional feminist conflation.)
but then, ‘ending domestic violence’ would mean abolishing wimmin… LOL!
This article requires giant balls to write. And it’s true, all of it.
I would like to add my own account to this, by saying that not only girlfriends/wives create this drama, but also mothers.
Even my own mother created drama out of thin air, pushed me around, blamed me and made me into an evil person (when I had done absolutely nothing!) etc.
She does this with me because she can’t do it with my father, who is a completely servile and soulless, ball-less man.
Women create drama so that their bodies pump all those addictive “emotion chemicals”. They are literally addicted to it.
“[outlawing the disciplining of females is] Just another example of politically correct “progressive” bullshit ruining the relationship between men and women and replacing the man as head of household with government intrusion into our lives.”
But there is no such thing as a world without government. So we need to find a way to re-establish disciplining of females within the parameters of what is doable.
The middle ages had government and yet still men disciplined and hit females. Rome was government and men could kill and hit their females.
What happened is a dysgenic snowballed (made possible by technology and the “alpha beta gamma” coup de ta snowball) bred western men down the path of lily livered runts; then cultural socialization(brainwashing) took over from there.
“Let’s agree that it’s never okay for anyone against anyone.”
I don’t agree with that. Females deserve to be disciplined more because they are doing more wrong. (Our society has simply refined right and wrong in such away that that doens’t SEEM accurate to that horde.)
That discipline can be any method –ie non violent. BUT I will not deny the great unspoken: females get off on violence–it is the only thing they really understand and respect. They don’t like men who can’t win a fight against them.
“You state that women stay with abusers because they enjoy it and seek them out. I can’t imagine a rational argument that concludes with “all men are different individuals but all women are exactly the same”, although I would love to hear it. ”
Here’s a direct quote from the part of the article that you seem to be referring to: “Girls who habitually end up in relationships with abusive men do so because they are attracted to men who abuse them”.
You do realize that as written, that’s a statement ONLY about women who end up in abusive relationships. NOT about ALL women. You do understand there is a distinction there right?
“Assuming you are going to concede that all women are individuals, just as all men are, then by your logic, all men who end up with abusive women secretly enjoy it.”
If those men HABITUALLY end up in relationships with women who abuse them (check again that quote I helpfully provided above for you, it says habitually, referring to an ongoing pattern of behavior) I suppose that would be one possible explanation for that behavior. Of course you seem to be assuming that all other factors are equal when the genders of those dealing out domestic violence are reversed. Which they aren’t.
You should also take into account that women have better, more varied options for dealing with domestic violence from their partners that are not available to men. In cases where children are involved, for example, a man will generally NOT have the option to take the kids away from their abusive mother, unless the abuse is particularly blatant (cause everyone knows that women just dont do that sort of stuff). In a case like this the father might stick around in an abusive relationship to protect the kids.
What do you guys think of incorporating bdsm, mainly of the “Domestic discipline” variety into a relationship? Would that give a necessary outlet for the woman? The laws will never revert back to something sane.
I think reasons behind spanking is not so much humiliation, than the fact that this is the place one can hit hard to inflict pain without risking to break something and maim the spankee.
You have to see the arrogance behind the “ending violence against women” line. Not even violence against children, but violence against women, even though girl-on-girl violence is on the rise.
As purveyors of true equality, it’s men’s obligation to equalize men and women in the violence department. Until women start pulling their weight, or rather start throwing off the stereotype of being catty mean bitches who can’t fight seriously, men have to beat up women in order to make up the numbers.
“and all that happened were chuckles from people around me.”
I can understand it a bit in case of men, but to see people cheering on even if it’s a boy just irritates me no end. Manginas like Joe Biden might deserve some sympathy on that account.
Though manginas are the ones who need to be taught a lesson more than women.
starts from 10:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OdQGbVNa4
that american open fight in detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx6OldsV-dQ
look at this shit, its like its talkin to my very soul,. indeed inciting violence is one of girl’s mechanisms to be aroused, and it happens more often in your beta backsliding phase and thats from my experience
I added you to my blogroll because of this post. Actually I had been meaning to add you for a while but just forgot until now. I don’t see anything wrong with this post.
The desire for drama is the desire for excitement and that’s a human thing. We are disconnected from healthy doses of adrenaline inducing danger in our lives so we create such situations in our air conditioned plywood suburban boxes. We need to take up risk mocking activities like hang-gliding to get our fix rather than induce fights with our partners.
There is a Spanish proverb that says: De noche, todos los gatos son pardos. which, loosely translated could mean:
At night, all gats are brown.
In the dark, all cats are brown.
or going a bit farther…
Under the surface, all cats are the same — OR
THEY ARE ALL LIKE THAT ……………………….Sh*t, they ARE!
Amen, Jen; the shit has hit an all-time low here. It’s simple, actually: if you’re such a great alpha male, and she’s not physically attacking YOU, then you dump her or give her some scathing words right back. Hitting her, treating her like she’s an insect, is pathetic and childish. So is the sick practice of trying to punish a child with humiliation; swatting them on the legs is plenty effective without taking off their underwear, and Sod is correct about why the bottom is chosen. Let the sick and bitter fucks around here unite.
“What do you guys think of incorporating bdsm, mainly of the “Domestic discipline” variety into a relationship? Would that give a necessary outlet for the woman”
Sure, women can’t be controlled unless they’re hit. My Christ, talk about the fucking Devil’s Advocate.
U mad, sis?
“People can change, but change is slow and incremental; it doesn’t happen overnight, nor after a wedding. If you paid attention, you could have seen signs that your man was an abuser, but you ignored them because unconsciously”
Didn’t you just say that men SHOULD terrorize their women? So according to you, those men were acting appropriately if they showed “signs” that their women should be scared of them. And this, after you wrote an article claming that most men don’t have the psycho urges to do these kinds of things. How about we twist things around the way you did? Maybe you ended up with so many witches because you’re secretly attracted to them? And are now just like a feminist who won’t acknowledge her own mistakes and says men need to be kept in order with extreme measures? Only a few nuggets of truth here: violence against men is just as bad, a woman who acts violently may require physical aggression in return, and being loud and firm in the face of a total, screaming but non-violent witch is effective without needing to hit her.
Penelope Trunk is a poor, empty-headed soul who can’t decide whether she’s victim or self-improving heroine. She posts her own bruise (with an image of her naked lower body that’s totally unnecessary) and then says stiffly that maybe she could have improved herself, then gives an example of her mother “needing” a smack, never mind that her mother was throwing a rather violent tantrum and having what appeared to be a meltdown; it’s not uncommon to give someone in such wild straits a smack to calm them down, and one that needn’t in the least leave a bruise. She does not know what she’s doing; she’s too much of a mind-drifting waif to find solid ground. I’ll leave the rest of this matter to the smack-happy morons.
Mostly disillusioned now, Ferdy; I’ve been “mad” at you before. Tootles.
lol ferd i think she’s mad
I do agree with most of the things you’ve said in your post. It’s spot on and bluntly honest, which is awesome.
In the part of the world where I live, however, things are less different. Most of the women here do not choose to be abused by any means because they are born into *families* that abuse them, and the police/government doesn’t really help. In some cases, anything done against the men that abuse them (fathers, brothers, etc.) could result in some sort of murder, which isn’t the most sensible route to take.
As much as I concur with all of what you’ve mentioned, I think it only stands true for when the women takes the alternative to get beaten up in place of choosing freedom when it’s there. For some women, it isn’t, and they have to deal with it until they can attain that freedom.
Awesome article, still. Hats off to you.
This is a subject that I consider to be very serious, and while I agree with your thesis statement that ‘domestic violence can be necessary’, certainly the way Connery puts it- I think that is distinct from ‘Domestic Violence is a Necessity’.
All but a handful of the pretences that could lead up to domestic violence can be observed and addressed long before it escalates into physical communication. If its the girlfriend/wife’s provocative behavior- its as you mentioned with the jekyll/hyde impossible instantious transition- the signs are there and you can speak to them.
“Look, I want to make this relationship work but the way you _____ frustrates me greatly, and it needs to change. I’m not going to continue this relationship if it doesnt”
In your situation, you could have (possibly did?) do that- and it didnt change. Thats when you call off the relationship and move on with your life, you did mention financial issues were involved but thats the way life is- hard.
Be the bigger man and be in control- but Connery is also right.
That poor woman in the picture is fainting! It’s a good thing that that man is there to reach for the smelling salts that are just off-camera in a basket hanging from the ceiling.
In some countries today it is expected that the man needs to hit his woman under some circumstances. There is not only no social stigma against it, but the girls sisters and mothers will agree with the mans punishment.
I’m not talking about Iran or Afcrapistan, but SE Asia, such as Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, etc.
I have rarely hit a woman. It has rarely been necessary. But sometimes you have two choices – hit her, or break up. So yes, hitting her in such an instance really does mean you care.
It is a travesty the way this required discipline is criminalized in the west. A sign that something is deeply amiss. One reason I would not want to live in the west, at this point. A man needs counterbalances of control against a woman, and if those are taken away by force of law, domestic sickness and then cultural sickness will certainly ensue.
To a certain extent I can understand the point and reasoning behind your argument. But within the confines of law all violence is shunned.
You say that women inflict emotional damage on men and that they put themselves in that position and what to be beaten or hit? Men put themselves in that position also, or does that not matter?
If equality is what you want then shouldn’t it work both ways with all types of abuse and for both genders.
I see anyone that inflicts another person with any type of abuse and stupid and damaging. Emotional and mental abuse isn’t exclusive with women, just like physical abuse isn’t exclusive to men.
So wouldn’t it be fitting to say that they’re both in the wrong and not place all the blame on women in these situations.
I know of a fair few cases where men have been manipulating the woman to think she was at fault when he hit her but thats not true. A woman may not even see her nagging or her persistance as emotional or mental abuse and have no motive or reason behind it other than getting her views heard.
I know my reply to this blog will receive alot of crap and negative feedback but I honestly don’t care.
Domestic violence is a contreversial and complicated issue that has sparked many arguments, started many organisations and brought to light other issues.
Ferdinand,
Are you stupid?
I can’t help but question the intellect of someone who goes to such lengths to justify physical violence against physically weaker people. Your same line of reasoning above could be extended to justify bullying, gang culture, child abuse and countless other positions of social responsibility – including, as some have already pointed out, the psychological abuse directed at yourself.
In fact, having read the above I’m inclined to suggest that if ever there was an example of someone deserving the abuse those with power of them have enacted, it’s you. Luckily not all of us are quite so simple minded.
@V
“If equality is what you want then shouldn’t it work both ways with all types of abuse and for both genders.”
The situation is unequal because women have much more power in a relationship than men if men are not allowed to discipline them. The state is one of the woman’s weapons that creates a huge imbalance of power. Her sex appeal and emotional manipulation are her other weapons. The man, on the other hand, has no weapons. He is at her mercy. Unless you remove the woman’s ability to use the state as a weapon, and return to the man the ability to beat her when she misbehaves. Then and only then is the situation balanced, if not equal, because the man retains his physical power as a weapon and she retains her sexual and emotional manipulation as a weapon. Then and only then can a stable truce be formed.
Note that this also requires you remove the woman’s ability to falsely cry rape, falsely cry domestic violence, the ability to get alimony and child support, etc. All state power that allows women to abuse men must be put to an end, or she retains the power to destroy his life on a whim.
I agree with a lot of your points.
It’s not okay to hit a woman, but nor is it ok to hit a man or a child. This is different in instances of self defence. The idea that guys get taught “never hit a woman” but aren’t discouraged from violence in general is ridiculous.
I also feel for you at not being able to talk about what happened. It’s equally as wrong for a woman to hit someone as it is for a man to hit someone, and the uncaring attitude that often meets male victims is a reflection of an awful worthless society.
Having said that, your idea that you should hit your girlfriend in order to control them or whatnot, I can’t agree to that. Violence is only justified in terms of self defense, and relationships are symbiotic. It’s not about one having control over the other.
I do also have a loathing for the Chris Brown fangirls. However to assume that women deserve to be abused and to have no sympathy for any female victims of abuse is a poor judgement. Many (male and females) who end up in violent relationships already have issues with self esteem or assertiveness, possibly have suffered abuse in the past. Celebrities such as Rihanna are not exempt from this.
Overall, you make a fair statement about how unequal men are in situations like this. However I can’t condone your condonement of violence and dominance.
@ zebramatt
Hey, no one here is promoting hitting a weaker person, such as a woman. At 5’5, 115 lbs, I’d be injured pretty fast but guess what? Women bare responsibility in abuse, they should watch their tongue and he should too.
And sometimes, men meet up with a crazy, unstable bitch, they need to dump but for some abnormal reason they stay with crazy.
Women: you do not provoke, insult and carry on with your partner to incite a hitting. You simply take a walk, shut-up or break-up (if unmarried). It as simple as that. I am promoting never hitting anyone unless your the parent and its discipline for a child.
Ohhhh! Did I just blame women for being hit? Yep, I did and will.
Its like I have always said. Nobody should be hitting anybody. This is what I say when some half wit states that under no circumstances should anyone hit a woman. Is it ok to hit a man? The double standard is mind numbing.
I work in an industry made up of mostly women and have learned much about them. I have learned that most of them are evil, manipulative, catty, emotional, illogical, passive agressive, angry, deluded, unreasonable, just plain mean and stupid. They also seem to relish in behavior that if a man were to engage in, they would complain. Like putting up pictures of shirtless men in thier offices. Imagine if I put up a picture of a woman in a bikini, like a MAC tools calender?
The idea that a man cannot defend themselves against a woman is just plain wrong. If a woman can raise her hands to a man, the man has a right to defend himself.
Lastly, the women who get angry when they read a blog like this really make me laugh! They are a protected precious class! Why should they be so angry?
indeed. this post only writes the truth as it is observed in real life. I myself have hit my girl several times. buit I never appologized afterwards. whenever she confronts me about it I always put the blame on her,and in some fights it is like her body is just looking for it and the fight wont stop until she gets hurt. yes she cries afterwards and claim that she will leave me but I shove it off, and we are still together long after that, for six long years while a very honorable, wealthy, honest, stable, and perfect friend I know who almost worships his girl just leaves him like that, worse she fucks another guy while she is still with my friend and much worse, he still tries to please her after learning that, and cries in front of her like any “honorable” man will. I dont know what you will get out of this comment but hey, just sayin
Just to make things equal, a couple shouldn’t hit each other. Period. And if they do, it better be a full on brawl ’cause it don’t matter what your gender is, if someone swings at you then you better swing back.
76 Anonymous April 16, 2012 at 11:27 pm
fine, I’ll sign up as a guest referee. No steel chairs on this one please.
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