A couple days ago, Roosh informed me that one of my posts at Fat Girl Jihad, on making fat girls cry, was linked at Fundies Say the Darndest Things!, an online watering hole where preachy atheists gather to point and sputter at “offensive” comments made by devout Christians and Muslims (but usually comments by Christians, because atheists are too chickenshit to challenge religions whose adherents might actually take offense and physically hurt them). That’s right — these oh-so-smart and superior logical thinkers couldn’t figure out that my entire persona at FGJ is a put-on. Here are the best comments they made about me:
You are a douchebag who needs to learn to accept people the way they are. Also, I’d bet you’re not getting laid. Please just leave the poor goats alone.
You might as well go fuck goats, because if any woman with an ounce of self esteem hears the way you talk about overweight women, you’ll never be getting laid again.
And just for the record, if someone is overweight, it’s not always because they keep feeding their face. They could have medical issues.
Oh, Abdul…while you’re at it, please badmouth those fat GUYS waddlin’ about with those filthy, hairy beer-bellies oozin’ out. We ladies find them gross.
Oh…wuzzat you say, Abooboo?…Only women? Ah, a misogynist bully! Sorta “Love-Shy Meets Fatphobic Bullies”, nice….go suck an egg you worthless hunk of slime.
My coment about fat guys & their bellies…I DIDN’T MEAN IT! I WAS BEING FACETIOUS!
Oh, and us boy & girl butterballs get plenty of love thank you. I for one am fat & I want to lose weight, not because I wanna please boobs like you but because it’s healthy & I’ll feel better & lighter (which is a nice feeling).
Wanna bet this clown thinks perfectly healthy, normal weight, non-fat, shapely girls are fat?
FIT, 130 POUND GAL WALKS BY: “Oh GAWWWDDDD DA FATTTYYYYY!!! HEY, LARDO!”
EMACIATED 90 LB. SUPERMODEL WALKS BY: “Hotcha hotcha! Woo woo! Hey baby! Is it hot in here or is it just you? *various sundry slobbering animal noises & weird gestures follow til “Ms. Twiggy” knees him in the groin*”
Wow, this is the ugliest man on Earth! That guy is surrounded by a solid wall of hideousness. He walks in the room, and everybody can feel their skin prickle with radiated ugly. (Regardless of how he looks like; it’s CAPSLOCK-WORTHY UGLY, the kind that comes from inside.) When he walks down the street, rats and pigeons throw up. Beggars throw him coins to make him go away. He sued his doctor for malpractice because he couldn’t tell his face from his ass. His mom changed identity and moved to another country not to run into him. Anyone who posts his picture is permabanned from 4chan. Drivers don’t run over him only because they don’t want to scrub it from their bumper. When he finally chokes on his own bile, his corpse won’t rot because even bacteria are disgusted by him.
Hideous, hideous little man.
Hey fuckwit. Did it ever occur to you that some of the women you’re fat-shaming might take comfort in food, thus perpetuating a vicious cycle? Or that some men do, in fact, prefer fat women? Or that some people are fat due to hormonal imbalances rather than anything that was their fault or under their conscious control?
No, of course not. You’ve made it damned clear that you don’t care about anything but your own comfort. “How dare I have to look at people I don’t find attractive!!”
You know why there are so many assoholic, retard Fundies? It’s because they’re not shamed enough.
As to goat f*cking, I’ll leave that to you.
Die in a fire. And fuck your god up the ass with a christmas tree. Sideways.
Doing my best to stay healthy myself and knowing how easy it is to maintain a normal, healthy body weight if one really, really wants to!, my view on overweight people isn’t exactly favorable, but this guy is rather unsensitive.
In addition, it’s amazing how many fat guys (i.e. with a BMI >25) think that bikini beauties find them attractive nonetheless. Uhh, no.
I’d like to know Abdul Wahood’s BMI. I’m guessing >25.
This IS a fundie belief stemming from the Christian concept of gluttony. In certain oddball sects you still find an entire family shunning their one fat daughter for being immorally fat and obviously a sinful glutton and thus ruining God’s temple. In mainstream culture we forget the Bible part but are still convinced of the sin part. When you see a picture of an very skinny model seductively eating fattening food it’s tapping into this idea of perversion. Chocolate is marketed as a dark sin, darker chocolate = more immoral.
Fantastically disgusting. Anti-feminists like this should just shove themselves up their own intolerant assholes and come out when they accept that gender and weight doesn’t determine personhood.
If you want to address obesity, i doubt that being a supreme asshole to fat people is going to help. Seriously, after reading this vile piece of utter shit i want to punch you in the dick.
Here’s the average FSTDT reader defending his betrothed from the predations of evil “fundies”:
I’m not a Christian, but I could never despise any Christian a tenth as much as these bullet-headed neo-Puritan twerps. Militant atheism is the pose of a coward, a cheap way to appear rebellious without putting yourself in danger or actually rebelling against anything. Anti-Christian priggishness is a little understandable when it comes from someone older and/or from a devoutly Christian region like the Deep South, but if you were born after the year 1980, shut the fuck up about religion already. God is dead, everyone knows it, and no one’s impressed by your repeating platitudes that were old and cliched before Kurt Cobain offed himself.
What’s especially repugnant about militant atheists is that they’re identical in mindset to the “fundies” they hate. 99% of atheists are doctrinaire leftists, politically correct to the point of nausea, and quick to excommunicate anyone who doesn’t kowtow to the golden calves of multiculturalism, feminism and egalitarianism. Remember how Richard Dawkins suddenly found himself to be a non-person when he politely suggested that Rebecca Watson was blowing the whole “Elevatorgate” thing out of proportion? Or how James Watson was booted out by the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory when he stated the cold hard fact that Africans have a lower mean IQ than Europeans? Hell, just look at the FSTDT quotes I posted above; the syntax, style, outrage and anti-intellectual attitude are identical to Christians talking about sin or vice. Atheists call themselves “skeptics” when they are by far the most conformist sector of Western society, slavishly defending the status quo.
Christopher Hitchens was the embodiment of everything repellent about modern atheism, which is why atheists worldwide reacted to his death like this. Hitchens was feted as a courageous rebel when in fact he never said anything truly controversial or dangerous; he was a strict feminist, anti-racist and neocon warmonger up until the day he died. And like all atheists, Hitchens had an irrepressible streak of yellow. He was a cheerleader for the Iraq War until he underwent waterboarding in a controlled environment and lasted all of ten seconds; he picked a three-on-one fight with a skinny Syrian dweeb and still got his ass beat black and blue. Hitchens attacked religion because it was a safe target, an easy target, because being godless has never been as socially acceptable in human history as it is today. Not surprising that he died of cancer, quite possibly the most gutless way to leave this world.
But hey, at least the fat nerds at FSTDT can comfort themselves with this; they didn’t totally contradict their “tolerant” belief system by wishing someone on the Internet who disagrees with them a fiery, painful death… right?
Related reading: Proph’s run-in with the FSTDT crowd.
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I’m an atheist and I totally agree. It’s like you went in to my head and scooped out all of my thoughts about atheists and put them on your site.
You totally destroyed them, great post!
I must also point out that I am an agnostic/atheist myself, and that makes me especially intolerant of dogmatic, irrational, leftist bigots like the ones you attack in your post.
Finally, as a French, I can say that in my country it is actually more rebellious to say you are christian, than to say you’re an atheist.
I used to believe in God when I was younger, and I took flake from it at school. Christianism in Europe and Catholicism in particular in France are about to die. When you visit a catholic church, the average age is 70 years old. There are now more practicing muslims than catholics in France (http://presqueriensurpresquetout.unblog.fr/2006/10/03/les-pratiquants-musulmans-reguliers-premiere-religion-de-france/ if you can read French).
Guess Hitchens wasn’t enough against Big Tobacco, if that’s what killed him.
Why do you keep saying cancer is a gutless death? It’s something one has no control over. Are you advocating suicide prior to death from the cancer?
My grandfather died of cancer, and I don’t remember anything about it being especially cowardly. Perhaps you can enlighten me.
Those comments are hilarious. I can totally picture them in my mind, literally foaming at the mouth, red in the face as they pound away their rage on the keyboard with their chubby fingers. You played them like the fools they are. By the way, I’ve also been “godless” for the past 11 years, and I’m a little ashamed to admit that I was like them at first, always challenging my christian relatives to pointless debates and never losing an opportunity to make a snide remark on religion/the bible. Eventually I just grew out of it, I wonder if they’re also just going through this “phase” or if they’ll somehow find a way to keep feeding their bigotry and hatred via the interwebs.
Atheism is a secular religion, just like environmentalism.
FGJ is genius. Thanks for the lolz
Atheists are stuck on bashing religion because that’s all they can really do. After they stop doing that they maybe stop and think “so now what? what is life all about then” and then some existential terror hits them if they think about it too long so they go back to picking on biblical incaccuracies. Like most groups they’re following through on our biological inclination to not be logical or fight for truth but to just appear smarter than the next dude. Most atheists aren’t ready for atheism or what atheism implies about life.
Anti-Christian priggishness is a little understandable when it comes from someone older and/or from a devoutly Christian region like the Deep South, but if you were born after the year 1980, shut the fuck up about religion already.
I’m off the hook (born 1966 in Tennessee)! So get your hate on for the baby Jesus the OVO way.
#FerdCallsMeThings
Agree, except about Hitchens. Unlike most nu-atheists, Hitchens took on Islam and, at times, political correctness: see Why Women Aren’t Funny (http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701).
gee, I wonder if your hatred of Fat Women is comparable to Amanda Marcotte’s hatred of men with poor social skills…
http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/07/the-guide-to-nice-guys-in-comic-form/
::dip broad brush in paint::
I am a Christian and an artist. Both sets of my sensibilities were aghast at your column today: I couldn’t continue to read the idiocy of the comments and the picture of the fat omega and his obese, nude damsel in distress were disgusting.
Um … yeah … so what was the point of this post again?
Cuz … like … I can find a bunch of religious people who are the same in every way except that they believe in an imaginary friend.
So … like … all you have shown is that stupid people are stupid? Yaaay!
But, yeah, it was fun reading the comments you quoted. Shoulda left it at that.
Love it. Every word is true, bunch of cowardly hipsters with Che Guevara shirts and a jihad against Christianity.
I despise them a lot.
“99% of atheists are doctrinaire leftists, politically correct to the point of nausea, and quick to excommunicate anyone who doesn’t kowtow to the golden calves of multiculturalism, feminism and egalitarianism.”
99% my ass. Seriously, WTF is this?
Looks like Ferd ain’t pullin’ punches today. Egg-nog-fueled written rampage? Still, did you have to link to exile faggots?
I sense a contradiction in criticizing others for attacking easy targets and then making fun of fat people. Nerdy ones at that.
It’s still kind of hilarious though.
Good piece! You are right!. Unfortunately most “free thinking atheists” are really just secularized Calvinists with Marx in the Jesus role.
Haha awesome article. Almost all atheists I know are left-wingers who call themselves “humanitarians”, which is code for giant pussies.
If atheists felt secure in their atheism — they wouldn’t have to make a big fuss about it.
You make a good point about Hitchens here. If the Arabs worshiped Marx and materialism instead of Allah, then he wouldn’t have a problem with them. Atheists are not free-thinkers. In fact they are part and parcel of the modern world, and already they’re part of the new “orthodoxy” of the secular theocracy.
PC=secular Calvinist fanaticism. Nothing more.
Atheism is not a religion.
Properly practised using evidence, logic and reason it is a science.
Atheism gets treated as if it’s a religion all its own because it so often goes forth and “proselytizes” with a zeal not unlike the more traditionally religious.
Check this out: http://secularright.org/SR/wordpress/2011/12/25/atheists-behaving-churlishly/://secularright.org/
After getting a California religious display taken done, some professional atheists from the group Freedom From Religion set up their own nativity scene with Darwin, Einstein…and Emma Goldman. Talk about baggage wholly unrelated to atheism proper.
What do you expect of people who make an identity purely out of not believing in floating men in the skies?
PRO-ANA.
I agree with most of this post and I’m a Christian. I have great compassion for the overweight and those who desire to imitate the very frail, as we see through the glass darkly in this world. I am lost, where did the writer (fern or whomever) at fat girl jihad say anything wrong? I don’t think anything wrong was written. I like the page, its hilarious and non-traditional towards the topic of obesity.
It is laughable that critics are THREATENING to not sleep with you. Where have I seen this same unacceptable level of hysterics?
Ladies and gentlemen, the issue is very clear – It is not related to fundamentalists, general religion or the lack of religion, this concerns physical appearances.
It is your duty to turn yourself into a toned fat burning exercising machine by staying fit, trim and healthy.
This level of diversion and name calling has little in common with atheism, faith in Christ or religion in general – these pple won’t touch the obesity issue.
Consider obesity as a scared cow similar to the worship of the sacrament of abortion to feminist morons.
On the other hand, for some, to be thin is like a religious devotion of sorts – you either feel “God’s glory when working out” or feel a high or become really happy b/c its ones muscles and bones screaming in joy since they are in motion or you don’t experience it. Thus, risking atrophied muscles, weakness, a sedentary lifestyle, eventual obesity plus obesity related illnesses.
I’ve actually had a couple of quotes regurgitated on FSTDT. I found the site kind of funny. Funnier than Free Jinger, where they are downright vicious, LOL.
But my question is this: How did YOU ever get mistaken for a fundie?
Yeah, I was featured on FSTDT a few months ago (where I am, I believe, still currently ranked like the #22 biggest fundie bigot of all time or some such nonsense — no one’s ever accused the left of having a sense of proportion, I guess). My offending post was one penned in response to the stomping of a transgendered freak who insisted on using the women’s restroom despite being a man. My point was simply that I was, in principle, OK with bullying aimed at enforcing moral and social norms such as the distinction between the sexes, even though I was unsure if such bullying should extend so far (as it did in that case) to violent assault and apparently attempted kidnapping.
Apparently this nuanced stance on bullying was JUST TOO MUCH for them to take, and they all got the vapors (or whatever). Here’s how our enlightened moral superiors responded to it:
== “If that’s what you truly believe, I hope I get the chance to meet you in person. After all, beating the shit out of you isn’t “bullying”, it’s just “enforcing social norms” – I.E. the strong kicking the shit out of the weak.”
== “How bout I round up all my mates and pay you a visit eh? After all, in my High School at least, bullying was against school rules and policies due to attempted suicide and suicides by victims. You, sir, are a douchbag of ultimate proportions. The blood of the innocent is on your hands, and the hands of bullies everywhere of course. You sicken me.”
== “I assume you’re not stupid or arrogant enough to claim perfection for yourself?
So please, feel free to list some of your imperfections and I will come and see if I can bully them out of you. Hey, if it doesn’t work, the only downside is that you are constantly reviled, insulted, put down, mocked and occasionally physically assaulted for the rest of your life, but that’s fine according to you, isn’t it?
If on the other hand, you have no flaws, then I guess we’d better kick seven shades out of you day and night until you normalise by being imperfect like the rest of us.”
== “Your point regarding sharing a bathroom could be summed up as, in your opinion, “your shit don’t stink”. Congrats. I thinks someone should beat you for that, weirdo.”
== “In closing, I’d like to say that in the spirit of this blog, I’d like to be your bully, but only if you’ll have me. Think of the FUN. I can chant Needle Dicked Jeasus Freak everytime I see you. You can try to ignore me, but I’ll always be RIGHT there, grating on your nerves and wearing down your self esteem until you either erupt in a seething rage, or go home and swallow a bottle of pills because you just can’t take it anymore. Then, you can join the ranks of the effeminate weirdos and social outcasts you seem to hate so much.
See you arond blog man. We’re Definately gonna have some good times.”
(This one was especially interesting given that, again, my conversion to Catholicism came several months AFTER I wrote the offending post — I was still a deist who denied the divinity of Christ at the time).
The comments at FSTDT themselves are not any more redeeming.
“nativity scene with Darwin, Einstein, and Emma Goldman”
That’s because that “atheist” group is actually a jewish group, which uses the atheist identity as a cover to hide who they really are. Einstein and Emma Goldman are both jewish.
I am an atheist myself, although I do retain some sort of reverent “awe” of the universe, which I think is important for anyone to have. The thing that gets me about liberal atheists is that they think they have a monopoly on “reason” and “logic”, like somehow they think that JUST religion is the logical downfall of man. This could not be further from the truth. There exists far more illogical, irrational, and unreasonable secular delusions that are bought and swallowed by all liberals.
Well, I’m a a militantly antireligious people agnostic. And it ain’t because I like picking on easy targets. I pick on these people, rather than the savage Mahometan inhabitants of sand-ridden, but holy, foreign sh&t holes, because they are over here screwing with MY country.
I’m not an athiest, I’m an agnostic. Just because I don’t like the character as presented in the Bible, doesn’t mean I deny God’s existence. I reckon if God is half of the prick as he is in the Bible, I got no use for him. Much as I hate the namby-pants, cherry-picking of the bible by leftists, who ignore that nasty Old Testament stuff, I do dislike GOPnik Evangelicals more. I channel the immortal Mencken in this regard. The two groups of Christians I can respect are Franciscans and Old Order Amish, the first are selfless the second stay out of the way.
God might be dead, dead as Kurt, but there is a large demographic of mouth-breathers, who subscribe to a certain evangelical worldview, and who made 2 terms of Bush possible, and many of ‘em were sappy “compassionate” conservatives until the so-called maumau socialist got in power in ’08 and the old geriatric vampires all went Tea Party. I’ll never forgive them for that or for having to deal with ‘em on a daily basis growing up or paying the medical charges, or lung transplant, of some old hypocrite who voted for Reagan, and who is just waiting to cross Jordan that one last time. His/her younger compatriots, having made sure we wasted money on the Sumerian craphole, now insist that I send $ overseas to encourage fecund peasants to breed, in the hopes that some of their kids can eventually come over here. And while militant anti-religious types are given freedom of speech, anybody who wants any government job higher up than dog catcher had better well pretend to respect these people’s worldviews.
I hate the way Evangelicals will pick and choose what they’ll judge, screaming forgiveness and beams, motes and eyes in one breath, and raining hellfire on their political opponents in the next breath. I saw this all the time growing up in the very often divorced and remarried, but worried about the sanctity of marriage South. Note to young nihilists from other parts of the country, there is nothing edgy or original in defending Southerners or religious conservatives. It’s as annoyingly naive as the leftist tendency to make excuses for non-Western wretches and lumpen prols.
There is no place to go, no group to belong to. Because I ain’t allying myself with a bunch of dna and race obsessed Viking warrior wannabes. That screams circle j&rk and frustrated sausage party.
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atheists are too chickenshit to challenge religions whose adherents might actually take offense and physically hurt them
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THANK YOU. You summed up their position nicely. These jackoffs scream and rant about “Evangelicals” in the USA but then turn into self-loathing fools when radical Muslims start their griping.
I’d hate to be their equivalents in Egypt right now. The Muslim Brotherhood is going to make the Ayatollah Assahola look like a nice guy by comparison.
Excellent article, however I believe you are wrong to claim that Hitchens was a feminist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA7pfR0FIc
Just evo surfed over to their site and searched…. for my usual handle.
Nada. Clearly I have not been offensive enough. I have aoffended the Free Jinger crew. ALmost as much fun as sabotaging a sicentologist protesting at the American Psych Association meeting (SF: about ten years ago. If you protest ot the street and the camera is rolling, it takes two seconds to add rabbit ears).
One of the things I have noted about Trad Christinaity and Patreactionary is that there reamins a fairly high signal/noise ratio. In some parts of the manosphere the trolls try to run rampant
I like intelligent arguments. But not the same fracking argument that has been used by Dawkins etc. Boring… produce an new analysis. One that makes me think, not just recall an answer used for the last two thousand years. (note to those withoug a classical education: most ancients were functionally agnostic).
Still not seeing an explanation for the “gutless” line.
There’s one person here who’s clearly gutless, and it’s not Hitchens.
Die in a fire. And fuck your god up the ass with a christmas tree. Sideways.
ferdo they accused you of having a god!
are you gonna take that?
anybody want to be an actual rebel these days? honor jesus and advocate for boys and men… no phake hitchenses down that road
What an unusual yet quality find… and written by an atheist no less. Until reading this article, I had nearly given up on atheists all together, and this is after converting to Christianity only four years ago. Now I realise the atheists I know and read about on the internet are just being particularly obnoxious lately. You had me by the first paragraph!
Many atheists these days are connected to the whole liberal, leftist, Marxist, feminist, egalitarian, multiculturalist, pinko-commie nonsense. And it all seems to come from a humanitarian Talmudic mindset. They are anti-racist, Obamassiah worshippers and pro-PC to the point of nausea. And you are quite right about how they masquerade as “skeptics”, yet they are the biggest proponents of the status quo. A small minority are Malthusians, thanks to the Goracle it would seem, which scares the shit out of me because they all want to become politicians. This year, these special folk (with a penchant for advocating genocide) went around proclaiming everything but Merry Christmas, just to be cunts, even going as far to say “Bah Humbug!” And I’m pretty sure they have no idea that Dickens portrayed Scrooge as a Malthusian archetype.
I have been saying atheism is a religion of its own for years as a result. Question ANY of their sacred calves, and oh no… you might as well be the reincarnation of Hitler.
Their recently deceased patron saint, Hitchens, was not only a complete reprobate and degenerate scumbag, but also a Bolshevik apologist. Oy Vey! http://www.theamericanconservative.com/article/2005/oct/10/00022/
Strangely enough, these types that I know also tend to be obese. Hmm…
Anyway, cheers to the war on the Omega males. Those slobbering, repulsive pussies without a clue. Too ‘sperged out to ever get a date (other than with a fatty), and Hollywood has no problem throwing this shit right back in our faces with their seemingly endless portrayals of Omega male archetypes. These losers need to read the bible, which is a guidebook on how to be an alpha male.
http://theresurgence.com/2010/07/29/the-omega-male
I loved this post, Ferdinand. I’ve thought the same thing for a few years now, militant atheist liberals are the biggest pukes of them all!
Hating people is fun. But seriously, you are not saying fat people can’t exist. Michelle Obama and the anti-happy meal people, all lefties, by the by, really do want fat people to, well, not be fat. It’s for their own good though, which makes it ok, I guess. It is just not acceptable to hate the way fat people look, even though it’s probably biological to be repulsed by someone who is a donut away from certain death. Why impregnate them when they are going to die too soon to properly raise your offspring?
“You are a douchebag who needs to learn to accept people the way they are.”
why don’t these tolerant folks accept YOU the way YOU are?
“Also, I’d bet you’re not getting laid.”
what els can they say. #1 getting laid apparently is all that exists in the universe
#2 i would like to see them actually “bet” that. seriously have them put money down. i would bet on you dude.
“You might as well go fuck goats, because if any woman with an ounce of self esteem hears the way you talk about overweight women, you’ll never be getting laid again.”
wrong! women bang this type of guy almost exclusively. wtf is self-esteem anyway?
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