I had a profound idea during this latest radio show, and that was this:
The reason millions of whites here in the US are so self destructive and racially nihilistic is because overconsumption of mass media made them mentally dull, and boring to themselves, and boring to one another.
Being intellectually passive and incurious makes life unbearably boring and meaningless. And such people are not able to form lasting bonds with each other — hence the epidemic of divorce and the massive reduction in marriage (shacking up).
Bad divorce laws that are very unfair to men and fathers is also certainly a factor, and American men have a reason to go on a “marriage strike.”
But if you observe the ordinary people in Middle America, you’ll see that they watched so much TV and played so much videogame that they became BORING TO THEMSELVES. This is a recipe for total nihilism — obesity, hard drugs, race-mixing, et cetera.
If you as a parent want your kids to respect you and follow your lead, you must be intellectually alive, and share it with them, something like the “tiger mom” Amy Chua, but not quite as rigid. For example, sports and theater are both worth doing, and there is still enough time to learn calculus and physics and piano.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was a “tiger dad” long before Amy Chua. He raised 2 kids, Ignat and Stepan. I met the latter in the summer of 1990 in Northfield, Vermont. He homeschooled both of them with tutors and music teachers who came to his house in Coventry, Vermont. Ignat became a concert pianist. Stepan just seemed like a well adjusted, happy kid who happened to have a really good education.
Solzhenitsyn was horrified at American anti-intellectualism and predicted the doom of the West because of liberalism. Unfortunately, anti-intellectualism is a hallmark of Americanism, and a lot of conservatives hew to “Americanism” along with anti-intellectualism.
It’s true that liberals believe themselves to be smarter than us. Look at the NPR guy, Ron Schiller, calling us stupid.
The correct response to liberal snobs is not to be even more anti-intellectual, but rather to throw yourself into things like math, science, medicine/research, foreign languages, and business. We have the raw ability as a race to do this, but anti-intellectualism and laziness is holding many of us back. Whenver the subject of liberal snobs comes up, I always think of this scene from Cape Fear:
“I can out think you . . . I can out philosophize you . . . I can out fight you . . . I can outlast you.”
This is because we on the Right have the raw passion, the thermonuclear rage. They have the institutions now, but we have the Spirit. We need to channel this rage into intellectual and financial pursuits (like Asians and Jews do).
And in the meantime, being intellectually alive is just happier. I know some research scientists up in Massachusetts, and they have a really fun workplace. They have multiple employee music ensembles — classical and jazz and rock, just in one company. Their relationships work better. They are physically healthier. The only downside is they don’t have kids much because they don’t have an outlook of a racial future.
This what we need to change. We need to create our own scientific and business intelligentsia again, that has an outlook of a White racial future.
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“race-mixing” is the same as obesity and hard drugs?
Ethnic-mixture among the European races has probably lead to obesity, mental illness, and of course, weakness among “white” people.
You are absolutley right.
This is the most important issue in the West right now. PU has been done to death. The MRM is almost fully developed. There is not much more to be said about either.
Like the white knights that the MRM people have to deal with, we have to argue with white men who defend multiculturalism. In truth, feminism and multiculturalism are one in the same.
Oh yeah I keep forgetting. Gotta protect the purity of the master race.
I could have sworn I typed in inmalafide.com instead of stormfront.org.
Yeah. The mud savages are the cause of everything wrong in this world.
The above was sarcasm.
Shaming language. Exaggeration. Exactly the same as the feminist.
Like when the feminist says “You just hate women!” – “You just hate blacks!”
Again the feminist says “You are blaming everying on feminism! Man up!”. The multicultural equivalent is “You are blaming everything on the blacks! Racist!”
The feminist and the multiculturalist are the same. They have the same origin and the same goal.
god, in mala fide sucks now
You idiots are just making shit up and considering yourselves enlightened upon the basis of it.
Ferdinand, this Stormfag shit has nothing to do with increasing men’s options in the modern world. Whites are not a team, and never were.
The PC swpl whites critical of the author’s philosophy
are BEST illustrated on display here
by the ignorance of the posting naysayers.
Reactionary PC swpls – now there is a cadre of losers in the gene pool
www. In DUURRRR FiDUURRRRR . durrrrr
HAHA! SO TRUE!
You tell ‘em! Oh, some other great examples of shaming language I see on this site all the time: “You’re just using shaming language.” “You’re using shaming language, just like a woman.” “Shaming language. You’re just like a feminist.”
The term “shaming language” has become the most overused, kneejerk example of shaming language of all.
And “men” are a valid team?
As I understand it, the site will entertain a range of views, including pro-White ones. Obsidian was welcome to post his article here and, while he didn’t get bounced for making a pro-Black argument, I believe Ferd should welcome him back. Rather than kvetching in the comments about whether a dissenting view should be allowed, promote your own view in either the comments or (if you’re up to it) in a separate blog post.
Your research scientists don’t need jazz and rock at work. They need UNREASONING RIGHT-WING RACIAL RAGE!!11!one!
BTW, how can you be so mealymouthed as to quote Joe Bageant and yet put out such crap ideology? Please, the guy just fuckin’ died. Have SOME decency.
RIP Joe.
Gender and sex-bending is to Feminism as Ethnic and Race-mixing is to Multiculturalism.
My favorite argument employed by racial-relativists is the “% difference in genetic code” fallacy. “% difference in genetic code” corresponds to evolutionary “racial differences” in the same way that “shoe size” corresponds to “basketball talent.” It might seem true, but ultimately it’s just misleading. Which is probably the point.
For example, Apes differ from humans in %difference of genetic code by something like 1.6%. Yet one animal puts itself on the moon and preforms open heart surgery on his friends, while the other still swings from trees and picks bugs off his friends to eat.
Not to mention that some-where within that 1.6% manifests the inability to mate with each other, which pretty much defines a species.
Also, I’d venture to guess that brothers and sisters differ in genetic code by some minute amount. Yet this difference in code makes up for the vastly significant biological differences between men and women….
In other words: %difference in genetic code is an erroneous metric (meaningless), and is not a legitimate (or reliable) metric for measuring “differences in human capacity.”
It looks like European football fans are a lot less pussified than US sportsfags:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/03/row-over-the-nature-of-anti-semitism-in-holland/
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US sportsfags would never say or do anything that was racially or culturally offensive.
“Increasing men’s options in the modern world.”
Ha, Ha! Only a homo feminist could come up with language like that.
I believe some conservative anti-intellectualism is a reflexive reaction against the hostility of intellectuals towards conservatism, and the use of intellectualism as a battering ram against traditional ideas.
It may be difficult for conservatives to establish a foothold in many of the ivory towers of the intellectual class (e.g., universities, main-stream media) but, as the writer says, they should not disdain the pursuit of intellectual inquiry. In the open field, outside of the enclosed spaces of “polite” discourse, conservative minded intellectuals can hold their own (Derbyshire, Sailer, et al).
Mindless vitriol on the subjects of race and sex, usually comes from middle-class middle-aged types who are heavily invested in keeping everything about our society exactly the way it is.
Of course, on sites like Inmalafide, there are a lot of younger SWPL types who also want to be future income-tax payers.
Yes, sir, granddaddy worked in the mines, and daddy went to school and held down an accounting job all his life, just so you could get a good and superfluous job as high-priest of an HR department, marry a Filipino and use game to get a Negro tranzsexual on the side.
However, once I learn a single fact, I will be different from the herd and they will savagely attack me.
So I’m not seeing where the benefit is. Maybe if the 60%+ of the population that are lying, disloyal, and insanely nasty animals were to disappear, what you are saying could be beneficial. Right now? Not so much.
I recommend an essay by Bill Whittle called “You Are Not Alone” where he talks about “the remnant” as mentioned by Albert Nock:
link
Likening race-mixing to nihilism seems to insinuate that if we are to have any purpose in life, we shouldn’t mix. This is an inherently racist comment that needs further clarification and correction, or needs to be rescinded.
The word racism has taken on so many contradictory meanings in our devolving post-modern society that it has become essentially meaningless. It is now deployed against people who question the biological differences of ethnicities in either mental or physical prowess, people who criticize religions or the policies of countries, as well as people who genuinely do hate fellow members of humanity because of minor physical and mental differentiations, and thus thanks to the unconscious effects of post-modern politics even language has be become devalued.
While I like the main thrust of this article I think it is far more important for the foundation on a sustainable and successful society based on common culture and aims (the enormously successful European Jew intelligentsia since the Enlightenment) rather than just skin color, after all it is the Anglo-American establishment that has bankrupted the foundational principles of our of civilization not the efforts of swarthy foreigners.
European Jewry, brought us usury, genocide and the atom bomb. Can do without, thanks just the same.
As more miscegenation in its present form it is a fairly straightforward mental illness, attributable, like homosexualism, to damage sustained in the womb or childhood trauma.
“Yes, sir, granddaddy worked in the mines, and daddy went to school and held down an accounting job all his life, just so you could get a good and superfluous job as high-priest of an HR department, marry a Filipino and use game to get a Negro tranzsexual on the side.”
Opposition towards marrying Asian women is a typical feminist trait. You’re a feminist, aren’t you?
You know how you can identify the pussified, multiculturalist, feminist sympathizing imbeciles? They’re the ones using shaming language and not actually addressing the authors arguments.
@ thforest
Siblings only share 50% of their DNA.
But of course, I’m sure you already knew that because you aren’t the type of person who flips through a 12th grade bio textbook for 10 minutes before commenting on a website just so you can look smart in front of a bunch of equally misinformed anonymous hordes.
Also, I’m sure some nitpicker who wasted 4 years worth of college tuition of their parents money on some meaningless “English” major will point out that the above was a run-on sentence, so let me save you the time so you can back to masturbating to Ulysses, or the Kiterunner or whatever kool aid you drink these days.
I think that Whites should remain White for the sake of biodiversity. Remixing the subspecies reverses tens of thousands of years of evolution. Read Edward O. Wilson’s book “Biodiversity.” Evolution is all about divergence from a common species, and it’s considered a good thing. Wilson would be strongly opposed to hybridizing his beloved Hawaiian finches with mainland finches.
Also, I’ve noticed that mass media is trying to match white girls with black males, though this so often leads to tragedy. So much so that the headline is often, “Mudshark dies of natural causes,” as chronicled here:
http://www.newnation.tv/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=b95c14f6d567693f24a01fcc80e46e2b&f=403
Read through those threads, and maybe you can understand why I equate race-mixing with degeneracy, decline and genocide.
I find it really funny that collectivists with nothing to be proud of feel the need to be “superior” on the grounds of either their race and national origin (Nazis) or identification with the international working class (Commies).
I’m not ashamed of being a white, blond, blue-eyed anglo-saxon male but I’m not proud of it either. I had absolutely no say in the matter so how the f*** could I possibly be proud of it?
I’d rather be proud (or ashamed) of who I am as a FREE INDIVIDUAL.
To the point:
You are probably right. But is not a white-only disease. Everybody gets bombarded by the media, remember?
@JP
Yeah I wasn’t sure about the brother sister thing.. scratch that.
But that doesn’t mean that %difference in genetic code is a legitimate measure for determining racial differences in innate capacity (or between species or any sets of individuals ), I think the argument about the apes supports this pretty well.
The fallacy is to think that a minute difference in genetic code couldn’t possibly result in an individual being significantly more “fit,” or that there’s a sort of “linear-like” correlation between DNA and “traits that the environment favors”
No. I think this site is sometimes interesting in that it describes good individual strategies for men to adopt in an age in which we don’t receive the same guarantees. I’m not into the male solidarity bullshit any more than I’m into the white solidarity bullshit.
I used to think that too, but the argument is based upon a false understanding of genetics, which leads people to believe that interracial couplings will lead to a world full of universally tan-skinned, dark-haired and dark-eyed peoples. Genes are discrete — they don’t get merged with each other. It isn’t like throwing different colors of paint into a mixture. As long as individual genes are being passed on, the possibility of them being expressed is always there if they’re paired with another recessive gene. (BTW, light skin is not recessive in the way that blonde hair or blue eyes is — it’s codominant, leaning towards dominant.) Places like Brazil, Puerto Rico, Turkey, Xinjiang, etc., are good examples of how mixing does not lead to universal brownness.
Check out these links:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2008/05/fear-of-a-white-planet/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/02/brazilians-more-european-than-not/
Silly man do you think you have Libertarian free will?
Anyone who doesn’t understand that multiculturalism and feminism are inextricable from each other, and reliant on one another, and very similar in philosophy and tactics, has not gone very far into the rabbit hole yet. It’s all cultural marxism, all operating from the same template, all designed to destroy the western, white nuclear family.
Hey Kievsky, thanks for making your positions clear. My white fiancée and I appreciate your point of view, but there’s one thing we need to figure out before we break up for the sake of preserving biodiversity. I’m native (south) american, black, and scandivian. I also have three bachelors degrees (cs, math, industrial engr, I got tired of school and didn’t complete my fourth) and a graduate degree in computer science. I’m also 24 and I’m already in the top 10% of income earners in the US. We’re both over 6 ft tall. I’m also a competitive powerlifter and rugby player. She’s swedish/german and looks like a model.
What’s the net for us? Our children will probably have much lighter skin than I do (they might even be able to slip by as white).
Do you see this as improving or dis-improving the gene pool? We will be eager to throw away all of mutual shared experiences and the relationship and life we’ve built together so that we can achieve your idea of not crossing the streams and ruining biodiversity.
nullpointer,
Damn. You and your wife are definitively awesome. You’ll make definitive contributions to the genepool you’re in. It just won’t be my genepool.
Being White isn’t about being “the best”, and it’s intrinsically White Supremacist to harbor that presumption. You’re better than most Whites. Best wishes to you and your stellar family of eugenic all-stars. But your family doesn’t belong in my ethnic extended family. No matter how good at math I get, I can’t be Chinese. No matter how tall you are or how much you can powerlift, you can’t be White.
Sorry.
Multkulti is the opposite of assimilation (predicated upon hegemony). Race-mixing is a separate topic.
It’s really more the government policies that created the modern social environment. Over time they have an increasing effect.
This should be clear from the outcomes changing for boys vs girls, including in traditionally male fields like medicine or law.
Change the policies and the rest will follow.
Nullpointer, if you’re mixed Euro and African and your wife is Euro, the likelihood is high that your children will have an appearance that will fall within the parameters of what most Americans consider “white”. It depends entirely upon which of your genes you transmit, how they interact with the genes that your wife transmits, and what will pass for white in the eyes of most Americans as your kids grow up (which may very well be different than what passes now).
“White” means whatever we say it means. We made up the category, and we’ve changed what it refers to over the course of centuries. It already has different meanings in different countries, and the term has expanded to encompass an increasing variety of people over the course of the past 200 years. When I was in high school, people in my school who were half-white and half-Asian were regarded as basically “white”. The term isn’t scientific. It’s a social construct (yeah, I said it). Phenotype is real. Race, not so much.
mudshark? wtf
@ nullpointer
so you started college when you were 14 years old, and still had time to put in 15 hours at the gym every week, while also doing 30 hours of homework and playing competitive sports on the side eh?
can’t believe you guys fell for this homo’s trolling
@Begby I started college with 56 AP credits (and multivariable calc/intro to linear algebra) so I had most of the basic classes, which are shared across the degrees taken care of. I discovered Arthur De Vany and CrossFit as a sophmore and I’ve been training since then. I did start college when I was sixteen not fourteen. I actually choose to stay in high school all four years, because I felt like my social development was fucked up enough skipping grades.
@anon666
That’s my point. I was being slightly facetious in my response, but in general I’m not sure what this “whiteness” they’re talking about.
@Matt Parrott
This is why I’m totally confused. What is whiteness? In Chile & Argentina there’s is a very significant white presence (white supremacist) even. The only thing that distinguishes me as not white is my slightly darker than olive skin. My children will probably be almost indistinguishable. Your descendants may one day meet my descendants and not be able to tell they are not white. I already have relatives that are indistinguishable from white people (culturally, physically).
What exactly are you trying to protect? I’m not against “whiteness”, in fact I have a deep appreciation for the culture of liberte, egalite, laicete that a bunch of white men (who had slaves created). I’m trying to grasp what you’re actually trying to protect.
I didn’t have time to elaborate before, so I’ll do that now.
I’ve noticed that American WN often imply that multiculturalism is the result of race mixing, but that appears to mainly be a conflation of two separate trends that bother them, rather than a valid association. I say this because, in Germany, race-mixing is seen as part of integration/assimilation and is generally considered to be something that undermines multiculturalism, rather than something that promotes it. Multikulti is what results from ethnicities/races remaining separate, and being declared equally relevant in the eyes of society and the law. You can either breed out the minorities through race-mixing, or isolate them and keep them as a “lower caste”. It is when they are isolated and exclusive, and then raised to an “equal caste” that multikulti results.
It is multikulti, and not race-mixing, that leads to high immigration rates, as ethnicities “bring over” their kin to live in their parallel societies. The Turks didn’t travel to Germany to live as Germans do, but to live as Turkish people within Germany. Pressuring them to assimilate into German culture (and intermarry) actually makes Germany less attractive to them, as an immigration destination. That is why the Turkish Prime minister admonishes Turkish expats to refuse to assimilate; he knows that assimilation works and he wants them to keep their Turkish identity so that they will continue to invest in their home country.
If one race/ethnicity remains dominant, both socially and demographically (by limiting immigration), then intermarriage with minorities does not result in a “browning” of the white, but in a “whiting” of the browns. This is something some black Americans complain about, and it is the cause of Turkish hostility to intermarriage with Germans, which they (rightly) see as the dilution of their minority ethnicity. The dominant race is always limited to those who are “pure”, so the offspring off mixed-raced couples are not part of the dominant race (this is true in most countries, even those where whites are a minority).
Multiculturalism is less a result of interracial sex (which was never uncommon in America, and cannot be considered a new phenomenon), than of high immigration, declining white fertility, and the resulting end to white hegemony. Now that whites are no longer the dominating ethnic group among the young (who define what is “cool” in a society), the definition of what is “white” is now becoming more broad, the same way it did when falling Protestant birth rates resulted in an influx of Catholic immigrants.
Nullpointer’s self-description reminds me of a lovely young lady I met at the headquarters of an environmental organization, for which I was making maps back in the 1970s: blonde to the roots, blue-eyed … and in possession of genealogical proofs that she had one black great-grandfather. One-eighth black was enough for Equal Employment Opportunity rules to count her as a “Black Woman” for quota purposes.
Amusement aside, I don’t have a dog in this fight. Not a black dog, nor a white dog, nor a yellow dog.
I also call bull on null pointer. He is a troll.
Let’s go through the probabilities. Most powerlifters are white, in the same way most sprinters are black. Most rugby players are white. A bachelor’s degree in math and computer science – I have seen in my life maybe one or two blacks in 400+ level math classes. That is for several schools. A masters in computer science. Earns something over 100K. At 24 years old. Oh yeah, his fiance is a swedish underwear model.
Believe it?
@nullpointer
What is maleness? If a man loses his penis in an unfortunate incident with unmaintained farm equipment, is he still a male? Which restroom do hermaphrodites go into? Is Ferd technically not a male until his testes descend?
You’re not totally confused. You’re obfuscating. There are White people, non-White people, and a small set of people in the middle who are sort of Whitish but not quite White. That no more negates Whiteness than Semenya negates femaleness. It’s not confusing. It’s not complicated. It’s simple. There are confusing cases, such as that with your offspring who may or may not pass for White. But my people exist as a group.
What I’m trying to protect is the kind of community and country I’m comfortable living in and honored to support, enrich, and defend. I’m trying to protect technological innovation, triple cheeseburgers, blonde muffs, dry comedy, fourwheeling on wooded trails, mowing your lawn somewhat regularly, and pink nipples.
There are countless little things, many that are quantifiable and explicable, and many that are not, that I get from my White American ethnonational extended family. I don’t get them from you, even if you’re super smart and tall. Some of my favorite Whites are stupid and short, anyway.
If somebody could prove to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that my grandchildrens’ experience in America will be similar to the one I enjoyed and not similar to what you see in non-White countries, then I would have to radically reconsider my worldview and probably drop my whole shtick.
I’m trying to preserve the sizzle, which necessarily requires preserving the steak – the White racial subspecies.
It’s far from impossible. Assume everything he wrote is true. That still doesn’t give a complete picture.
That C.S. degree could mean anything. There are universities of very low quality that still get accredited.
That $100,000 income – is most of it spent on inflated rent? Is it dependent on career commitments that are long-term self-destructive?
I could have a job that pays a great deal – but I would be in a long-term bad situation, and I wouldn’t be able to save and invest due to restrictions that get bundled with the job. Currently I’m earning very little – but I’m free of those restrictions.
I know a 6’4″ Hispanic who was theoretically a black belt. He had little muscle and little sparring experience. Okay, he had the belt. I’m not convinced that he had any fighting ability, and by his own admission he had very little fighting experience, inside or outside dojos.
If Nullpointer wants us to worship him, he should really start his own blog, on which he discloses the details of his fabulous eugenic life. And who knows? Maybe he really is the next phase of evolution. If so, this old dinosaur salutes him.
The government is not having a hard time determining who is White.
Why are you?
I doubt ferdinand will notice this, but he can trace my IP address to see who owns the block. I do have a blog, but unfortunately I really can’t cross the streams. If my employer were to find out my opinions on feminism, multiculturalism, and the hypergamous nature of women– I’d be out the door fast.
I don’t know when equality got conflated with equal opportunity, but I have far too much too lose.
Also my degree is from a top twenty school in applied math. It’s ranked top 40 overall.
My research interests are gene sequence alignment, three coloring, approximation algorithms.
I placed at the Intel ISEF in mathematics when in high school. I will continue my response when I get home my phone is about to die. Ferd use my earlier comments for ip address verification if you care to. This one is my phone not at work.
@ Kievsky
Your blog is useful for its ability to improve “game”, but I wasn’t aware the “game” it advocates was “stick to your own kind game.” You mask your racist comments behind the guise of intellectualism. Honestly, you shouldn’t give a shit less about what other people do, it’s their business. As long as it doesn’t harm you. We are all mixed, whether by color or region. My background is german on one side, irish on the other; surely you don’t think us all degenerates because our ancestors decided to mix centuries ago in Europe, do you? Furthermore, purity in the terms you state would actually lead to weaker human beings. Both human attraction and human immunity are derived by a cluster of chromosomes in the body called MHC (major histocompatibility complex). Humans are attracted to those who have dissimilar MHCs to one another. In turn, this creates offspring from parents with two diverse MHC’s, thus stronger babies.
With that said, your last words were “Read through those threads, and maybe you can understand why I equate race-mixing with degeneracy, decline and genocide.” Addressing these one by one, degeneracy is not genetic, it is the raising the parents provide. A poor support structure begets a poor raising. It doesn’t lead to decline because we end up with more varied genetic recombinations and stronger babies. And regarding genocide, I believe it was Hitler who advocated purity, and genocide.
Race-mixing was enough to send people into streets screaming for blood as recently as the 70′s. This was changed not because people became naturally more tolerant of it, but because the government and media have been pushing a massive propaganda campaign to normalize it and enforce acceptance of it. Just look at commercials and billboards that portray it as normal. “Everyone’s doing it” is the message. This has proven successful, and today a majority have accepted the new system of morality that began to be pushed only a few decades ago. An interesting side effect of this process is that losers and weirdos who’ve dropped out of regular circles for whatever reason are more likely to notice that something is fishy than are normal, well-adjusted people
who are still plugged into pop culture. This means that the propaganda’s claim that only freaky neo-nazis oppose the new order is reinforced in the minds of normal people whenever some stormfronter makes a fool of himself ranting about the Zionist Overlord Government.
The problem in getting to the bottom of this profound change in society is that people who look at this issue are too emotionally invested in their views. Either they buy the message and think anyone who has a problem with race-mixing is on a moral plane with Hitler, or they think the Jews are plotting the genocide of the White Race. The latter realize something is wrong, but they are too hysterical, melodramatic, and “out there” for normal people to take them seriously. In addition they too often have the familiar stench of internet loser about them.
So back to the topic at hand:
-Race-mixing was anathema to most Americans until very recently
-This was changed as the result of deliberate and immense effort on the part of certain people
Why? What is the motivation of the people pushing it? What do the people pushing it gain? Who are the people pushing it? When did it start? Is it really all about “diversity” and cheap ethnic restaurants like they claim?
I would also like to point out that Kievsky and Matt Parrott are former writers for the blog Occidental Dissent. The owner of said blog, known by various aliases but most recently as Hunter Wallace, is a confirmed fat, child-faced crazy internet loser.
We all know what nonwhites get from Whites. They live in the countries Whites conquered, use technology and knowledge that are the sole products of Whites, and enjoy massive involuntary redistribution of wealth from their betters.
But what do Whites get in return, for allowing these parasites in their presence? For giving them access to White jobs and slots in White colleges for the sole reason that they are not qualified to have them? They get the endless hatred of a pack of degenerate ingrates. Fair trade?
The gradual decline of America follows perfectly the gradual progress toward a White minority. Let them go back to their own countries, and enjoy what their own people produce – which is objectively less than what Whites produce.
My research interests are gene sequence alignment, three coloring, approximation algorithms.
That is a most welcome bit of news. Of course, we cannot accord you unquestioned authority (as we might offer to a Biology professor who deigned to grace us with his presence) but presumably it will be convenient for you to draw on your knowledge of science to prove your points about genetics by reference to actual scientific publications.
Is it convenient for you to cite peer-reviewed journals? For many readers who are not at universities, access to journals can be very inconvenient.
If your interests include gene sequence alignment, you can probably recommend a few journals and textbooks that will bring the rest of us up to speed. Of course no one person can read all the publications, but you could tell us which genetic controversies you are prepared to comment on. It’s not clear to me whether your expertise include the biological analysis of genes or just the computational operations required to support the biologists.
Your sample is skewed. The media isn’t going to report successful marriages so you’re only seeing the percentage that end violently. It’s called selection bias. I thought you were an intellectual?
The media is going to report any inter-racial marriages that suit the media’s goals.
It’s called propaganda.
And yes, the media does glorify inter-racial marriages. Black males and white females are depicted as visually attractive in a plethora of Western media. The recent STD awareness poster from the USA military comes to mind, as do innumerable TV commercials that depict black athletes with pale, blonde wives.
As usual, the anti-celtic, anti-germanic bigots show up in the comments. The “anti-racists” promote the genocide of celtic and germanic people by miscegenation. F-ck you, genociders. Great post, Kievsky.
“My research interests are gene sequence alignment, three coloring, approximation algorithms.”
Hold the phone here guys. You are giving WAY too much respect and fear for what nullpointer is talking about.
Please follow these directions closely if you want to actually know what he is talking about. This takes 3 minutes, probably less.
Go to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/
Search nucleotide, enter e coli
Go ahead and click the top entry, complete genome
On the upper right hand corner, under display options, show sequence,update view
Take your scroll bar to about halfway down, you’ll see a large block of atcg’s.
So what he’s talking about is a program that takes three long blocks like this and lines them up using 3 different colors. I hope that non-scientists will see that this is on par with lining up long strings of 1′s and 0′s with some color to highlight the differences.
This is an area called bioinformatics, but it would appear that nullpointer is only involved in the programming. I can buy the CS degree now. But this has almost nothing to do with biology. It has very little to do with genetics.
Please do not be impressed by beautiful words and credentials. There is an effect that all scientists know about – you say the words “I am a researcher” and their brain shuts off, people believe you are a genius or something.
The US Military makes anti-white, anti-male propaganda a mandatory part of everyday life. You can’t go a week withount having PC bullshit shoved down your throat. Some of the worst examples can be observed during any of the numerous month-long, service-wide celebrations of nonwhites or females. You’ve got Wetback Month, Negro Month, Asian Month, Female Month, etc etc, accompanied by mandatory indoctrinations, prominent public displays, involuntary volunteering (voluntolding), and you get to deal with uppity coworkers taking egregious pride in manufactured accomplishments. You get little posters in every office and inbox talking about the first woman to fart on a missile or the first Negro to do what thousands of Whites before him did without comment. Here are some examples of the great posters servicemembers get for Sexual Assault Awareness MONTH:
link
And the ones they used before:
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=active&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=our+strength+is+not+for+hurting&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
Notice the language change? And the ethnicities of all the people?
That fight scene — the subtitles are in Swedish, a lovely language.
Mycket bra!
And yes, the media does glorify inter-racial marriages. Black males and white females are depicted as visually attractive in a plethora of Western media. The recent STD awareness poster from the USA military comes to mind, as do innumerable TV commercials that depict black athletes with pale, blonde wives.
It must be a regional difference in the commercials. Around here, the husbands are usually depicted as being white, with the women being non-white or white.
Or perhaps we are simply noticing different things. I tend to notice advertisements more if they depict white guys, the same way that I tend to notice interracial couples more if the man is white.
At any rate, I’m going to repost my comment on my own blog next week, as it doesn’t seem to interest anyone here, and it’s too good to let it just sink into oblivion.
@Rick
Sure, but they won’t be what you are expecting see my explanation to Ryu below.
http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2004/04/08/bioinformatics.bth226.full.pdf
The very germanic sounding names over at Berkeley also came out with a more recent publication, but I can’t seem to find it.
Human Races: A Genetic and Evolutionary Perspective
Alan R. Templeton
American Anthropologist
New Series, Vol. 100, No. 3 (Sep., 1998), pp. 632-650
@Ryu
Correct. If you noticed my degrees and area of interest, I am focused on discrete optimization problems and related approximation algorithms.
While having a good grounding requires a basic understanding of the science (construction of the distance matrix requires understanding the models for genetic drift) I am by no means a professor on the biological components of genetics.
That said even my limited understanding is enough to for me to figure out that most people are horribly munging the concepts of genetics when it comes to gene expression. For a simple primer on how DNA the is not the end all to gene expression take a look at this post (by a real researcher working on Ph. D).
One last thing– you slightly oversimplified the process of lining up the strings. You have to first come up with a statistical models for the genetic drift (usually the probability of individual nucleotides flipping to other nucleotides for the most basic ones) to models for this are PAM (a woman came up with this one go figure) and BLOSUM (a man came up with this one go figure). Sometimes, I wonder if the naming scheme is purposeful. I digress, the point is that its not nearly as simple as lining up strings, especially if you allow affine instead of constant gap penalties (this distorts the alignment space).
@Matt Parrott
Your argument about cutting of a man’s dick is specious. A man without a dick, wouldn’t be considered a man by a lot of people. Furthermore, if you were to go further and cut off his balls it would trigger a cascade of hormonal changes that would make him closer to a female than a male.
I do give you props though, compared to most of the crazy white supremacists out there it sounds like you’re just a supporter for Zionist for white people, which is totally understandable. I just question how much you can actually filter “whiteness”. I have first cousins with blond hair, blue eyes, and fully Caucasian features. It can happen. In fact, white people with brown eyes are more likely to have a blue eyed children than the reverse. Philosophically, I fully support your right to a sort of white “homeland”, but I doubt the billions of Chinese, Indians, and the growing central American population will or will give up highly productive land without a fight. As one of the earlier commenters noted assimilation is preferable to segregation as segregation encourages multiculturalism particularly with differing birth rates and an aging population.
If I was white and I wanted to have the most evolutionarily stable strategy, I would steal all the best minds from around the world and convince them to assimilate to a set of white shared values. I would in fact encourage interbreeding for hybrid vigor and setup a system where the most successful offspring would rise to the top and generally treat everybody pretty well so that everyone would work to support this system even if they weren’t the winners. Sound familiar? An alternate approach is to try and wipe everyone else out in total war. That usually doesn’t work so well, because it tends to be taken negatively even by people on your side.
Clap, clap, clap.
You have proven at least to me that you work in bioinformatics. I disagree with your biology though.
What part? The references, my claims about my own biology, or my claims with regards to my family?
My references to Chile & Argentina should give you a hint where I am from (according to the CIA its 80%+ white, but maybe the definition of white is not stringent enough). It’s so mixed I have literally seen two light skinned parents have dark skinned children. This isn’t unique though, I have a friend from one of the Russian island territories north of Japan and her sister looks almost middle eastern her skin is so dark and she has the skin tone I traditionally associate with Gaelic folk.
I’ve noticed that white people have a fair variance in skin tone. There’s like the printer paper almost albino white and there’s the more beige white. Do you guys make a distinction among this variance in skin color?
Also, research interests = grad school (somewhere on the west coast, #1 applied math department, oops gave it away).
I work in operating system security, because they offered me a bunch of money and I needed a break from school.
I’ve given enough clues in my posts that anybody who cares enough can figure it out.
@nullpointer,
My official answer is that I don’t need to explain my striving for the right of my people to exist. I’m not attempting to derive some sort of eugenic superman to (benevolently) rule them all. But please humor a brief tangent to explain why I believe you’re wrong from a group evolutionary perspective.
This presumes a singular and obvious definition of “best minds”.
In the current context, the “best mind” is one that succeeds among an autumnal civilization’s managerial elites. Obviously, a high IQ is handy, but personality traits are also critical, and they’re also heavily influenced by genetics. While more aggressive, dominant, alpha personalities thrive in a precivilized context, they’re weeded out of the cloistered, priestly, sublime halls of managerial influence. The instinctive compulsion to lead and consolidate power is pathologized. The restlessness that once drove a man to success becomes ADHD.
This superhuman caste you’re envisioning is actually a very old thing. Jews, Brahmans, Mandarins, and the new global elite are all manifestations of this same basic concept. They’re managerial castes, designed by selection to excel at managing complex civilizations. They outperform Whites at this task, who, like sheepdogs, seek out non-Whites to be pack leaders of, turning on one another while managerial castes lack these instincts and stick together, looking out for one another.
Throughout history, Whites through superior martial vigor and compulsion to lead end up either creating or seizing control of civilizations. But, like clockwork, they sooner or later end up entrusting managerial elites to do the actual management – something they lack the focus, attention, and will to succeed at. This is why gentile Whites are still well-represented among CEOs, but leave the arcane financial and administrative tasks to Jews, Indians, and Asians. Whites are great at leading, but mediocre at managing.
Well, see, you might be able to pull that off for a generation. But the nature of our communities is rooted in our biology, not in the emergent abstractions we produce. You can’t have the sizzle without the steak. Whites are inclined to produce societies that are relatively autonomous and democratic. Our constitution has been copied hundreds of times over the world over, but democratic republics only manifest where they’re compatible with the population they’re applied to. As America’s population becomes less White, its White framework will become less and less relevant.
There’s no evidence that interbreeding consistently results in hybrid vigor. Jews are among the most inbred people of all, while Blacks have the most varied ancestries of all.
The twist is that evolutionary success is always relative to habitat. The civilizational habitat is one that has only been and can only be created by White people. Others can manage them, but as civilizations exhaust their resources and decline, those managerial castes who outperform us are doomed to go down with the ship (unless, of course, they can hop aboard a new ship that other Whites have recently created).
While Jews and Indians can definitely innovate, they only do so when exposed to a White society that encourages innovation. Left to their own devices, the scribes retreat to their sinecures to their religious discourses, legal documents, and financial records. It’s just like with White people and rap. Some Whites can perform rap and blues really well, but would have never imagined doing so without exposure to Black people. Black people can play basketball really well, but the infrastructure for structured competition as a form of play requires White people who are inclined to do that stuff.
Civilization, like basketball, is something Whites are good at creating, but can’t really compete all that well at.
I don’t expect you to agree with that framework. What I provided was merely a survey, with several unsupported assertions. But hopefully you can understand, from that framework, why I believe it’s imperative that we preserve the White population and our unique attributes. In my mind, the “evolutionarily stable strategy” is to hold on to our phenotype through the decline of this civilization so that we’re well-adapted to succeed in the aftermath. To breed for success in this civilization is not only unwise, in my mind, there are already other populations that have been working that angle and adapting to that niche for millennia.
@ Matt Parrott
No, I don’t understand why we’re making race-mixing an issue. If it’s such an issue, then what is your proposal as to a solution for this problem? Do we get rid of everyone who is mixed? Do we marginalize them as African-Americans were done in the past to the fringe of our culture? What are the stringency tests for racial purity and being “white”? If you do not have a platform to stand on behind what you deem a “problem”, then you are just espousing white elitism. Furthermore, without a solution, you prove of how little substance you and the rest of the white elitist movement (call it Racial Realism, if that makes you feel more like Jared Taylor and less like David Duke) are made of. I want to know how you and the rest of the white elitists plan to re-establish yourself as the dominant class. Or, because I doubt that will happen, the surge in reproductive rates in minority communities will eventually establish another ethnic group as the ruling class in a few hundred years. White elitists such as yourself have already been marginalized to the confines of the web and intellectually racist publications such as the Occidental Quarterly and American Rennaisance. Neither you nor Kievsky would have the balls to say something to me if you saw me on the street with my African American girlfriend and future wife. You are confined to the web to espouse your hate and that gives me immense satisfaction.
http://dieoff.org/
Cameron,
I hope you’re happy with your decision to marry a Black woman. I’m sure your children will be immensely benefited by the Black genes. I bet you’re so happy that you have extinguished the White heritage of your family.
Some White people want to remain White and not have propaganda shoved down their throat and down their children’s throats about how it’s cool to race-mix. It obviously worked on you. You think it’s cool and that you are morally unimpeachable.
I’ve got news for you. You’ve made a huge mistake, and there is a reason people are staring at you and your pet minority. It’s because you have chosen to mix with one of the most undeveloped people on Earth. They think, “What is wrong with that White man, to stoop to that level.” I assure you, even the anti-White diversity lovers think this in secret.
We all know race is real and it matters.
Enjoy your mulatto children. Don’t blame us when half of their genes revert to the Black American IQ of 85. Don’t blame us when they grow without any real identity, confused as to whether they are Black or White, when in reality they are neither. Don’t blame us when they most likely side with and consider themselves part of the Black culture, which will give you plenty of blessings of diversity.
@Cameron
Simple. Let those of us who are White leave. Then don’t follow us. There are regions of America that are almost completely White. And even an Orania-style enclave will do. After all, most White Americans are eager to shed their ethnic identities and plunge into the Cosmic rainbow nation, so a humble little reservation ought to be sufficient.
Yes. You get rid of the ones who are mixed. You don’t “marginalize” them or exploit them as underlings, second-class citizens, or anything. That’s one of the best features of you letting me depart – you no longer have to deal with me lording my racism and White Privilege over you. It’s win-win.
Not that stringent at all. If the person looks like he’s probably of overwhelmingly European descent and he embraces his White American identity to the exclusion of non-White American identities, then he’s in. No DNA tests. No craniometry. Just intuitive straightforward stuff. And if some people with fractional Black ancestry end up there, then that’s okay, since this is about ethnic identity, not biological purity.
I’ve been very very clear about rejecting “white elitism”. In case you hadn’t noticed, “white elitism” is the default state we’re in right now. Rich White guys dominate and exploit Mexican immigrants, the Black underclass, and overseas sweatshop laborers to enrich themselves. The platform I’m building (it’s not sturdy enough to actually stand on just yet) is one in which we Whites who wish to carry on as Whites will gladly hand over every bit of America’s infrastructure to you, every bit of it’s most fertile land to you, and every bit of its wealth and global influence to you, in exchange for being allowed to go off and simply exist.
It doesn’t seem like I’m offering you a bad deal.
I AM FIGHTING HARDER THAN ANYBODY ELSE TO DISLODGE US FROM BEING PART OF AMERICA’S DOMINANT CLASS
No question. Folks like me who are trying to secure the basic rights we need to continue as a people are getting our asses kicked, are being marginalized, and have been reduced to nothing but a handful of websites and self-published books.
I wouldn’t have anything to say to you and your girlfriend unless you asked. You have every right to be in an interracial relationship and be in an interracial community. More power to you. No judgment, here. Now please extend the same courtesy to those of us who choose to remain among our own kind. You act like I’m the one who’s trying to control you when my core message is the exact opposite of wanting anything to do with you. You’re the one threatening me.
I take my message to the street very regularly. Less than a month ago, I stood on the statehouse steps and delivered my message, unfiltered, to a mob of Mexicans, Blacks, and “anti-fascists”. With the exception of the anti-fascists, who continued barking at me, the others politely debated me, conceded some points, made some good points, and acted like adults.
The only one espousing hate on the Internet is you.
Realist,
Go fuck yourself. That is all.
It’s because you have chosen to mix with one of the most undeveloped people on Earth. They think, “What is wrong with that White man, to stoop to that level.” I assure you, even the anti-White diversity lovers think this in secret.
Huh? The majority of young people aren’t white, at least around here, so why would they think that?
Don’t blame us when half of their genes revert to the Black American IQ of 85.
Huh? That doesn’t even make any sense. Children’s IQ’s are at least half inherited from their parents, not from their parents’ races average IQ.
Cameron said “the surge in reproductive rates in minority communities will eventually establish another ethnic group as the ruling class in a few hundred years”
Actually miscegenation or even the growth of brown or black populations does not establish new ethnic ruling classes. In fact, it only makes that population more susceptible to the whims and control of the typical ethnic ruling classes.
This is precisely why elites in USA are happy to race-replace (i.e. genocide) White Americans to minority status in favor of brown Mexicans and Third Worlders. There are many places where miscegenation or the growth of brown populations has happened for hundreds of years. Guess what? It gets worse. They turn Third World.
Do you think Brazil is some multicultural utopia? Sure, some Brazilian will lie to your face and say they don’t think about race because it’s so mixed. It’s BS. Brazil is incredibly racially stratified. The favelas (ghettos/shantytowns) are all filled with Blacks and some browns. The White (German/Italian) and Japanese and Jewish elite live in houses with barbed wire and tall fences or walls. Is this utopia? The lighter-skinned mulattos, if they happen to achieve material success, invariably “marry up” by marrying a lighter or White person. ALL countries and cultures do this.
Did you know India used to be ruled by Indo-Europeans (White people)? That’s why they instituted to the caste system. Over time, the system failed. Now India is mostly brown. Is India a wonderful place, or is it a teeming mess of Third World brown people with starving children and flies and disease everywhere?
Haiti used to be the Jewel of the Caribbean, when the evil White Frenchman ruled it. It exported 40% of global sugar. Then the African slaves killed all the French, and even killed the mulattos. Guess what? Haiti is now all-black, and it is the embarrassment of the Western hemisphere. A little Africa.
Ever notice how the South American countries with the highest White populations are the most stable and have the best economies? Gee, what a coincidence. Ever notice how the industrial capital of Brazil is Sao Paolo, with a higher concentration of German, Italian, and Japanese immigrants? How strange.
While anti-Whites spew their filth about ending race, what they really mean is the end of the White race. Nobody says Africa is too Black. Nobody says Mexico is too brown, let’s flood it with non-Mexicans and create a blended humanity.
Yet EVERY White nation and ONLY White nations are “not diverse enough” so we have to flood them with non-Whites and encourage “integration” (i.e. miscegenation). Even if you couldn’t object to this on the genocide that it is, at least look at it from a utilitarian perspective.
You’re trying to kill the goose that lays golden eggs! If this evil plan works, I wish the best for your sloppy mongrel descendants who sadly live in a brown society of stagnation and decline. But hey, it was all worth it, right?
Alte: It’s called “reversion to the mean.” The genes of the parent are not in isolation. So two 120 IQ Black people that have a kid are more likely to have a smarter-than-black-average kid, but the kid’s IQ nonetheless has a tendency to “revert to the mean”, which for blacks is 85 IQ (USA, 20% White blacks) or 70 (real blacks, Africans).
Gorilla: truth is hard, I know. It’s very hard to either (a) realize you’re not White and that racial differences are real or (b) if you are White, realize that everything Mommy Professor told you in college about race isn’t really true.
Thinking exercise: replace everyone in Haiti with Japanese people. In 50 years, who can honestly say that this experimental group will not exceed actual Haiti (all black) in 50 years? You’d have to be nuts to not realize that different groups (races) have different abilities to build and sustain civilization. And the pattern is quite clear. Whites and Northeast Asians are very good at this. Browns are not so good at this. Blacks cannot even create anything remotely approaching civilization. Ever visited Africa? Blacks cannot even SUSTAIN civilization when it is handed to them, e.g. Haiti, Detroit, Gary, Watts, DC, Chicago, or…ANY significantly black neighborhood/area/swath of land/nation/continent
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and “assimilating” with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a nazi who wants to kill six million Jews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Thanks for the summary. I prefer the GGS version of history, though I’m sure you’ll have plenty to say about that.
I do find that your hypothesis fails to explain a lot of other things, but for the most part it is a fairly compelling narrative.
I never said there was not a good definition of whiteness, I simply asserted that heretofore none has been provided. For example, by the arguments above, Genghis Khan’s and his descendants (which according to genetic studies number 1 out of 200 men, or higher in certain parts of Asia) are even whiter than white people. The world’s largest and most expansive empire, developed in a lifetime no less, was built by someone of clearly Asiatic persuasion. If Genghis hadn’t passed away all of Europe might have fallen to the Golden Horde.
Islam had its hey-day too– one of the most important words in mathematics “algebra” has its origin in Islam.
Also, you misunderstood my implications. When I say the best minds, I’m not merely speaking in terms of STEM subjects. You take attributes and claim they’re inherently associated with “whiteness”. I take the attributes and say we should judge based on each person’s attributes and that whether or not there is a correlation with “whiteness”. You can maintain your phenotype, without ended up like the Ashkenazi Jews.
If the white phenotype is encoded in genes your argument seems to boil down to that that correlation implies causation and furthermore, the causation is so intertwined with being white that they are inseparable and that no mutation in non-white people could ever cause an isomorphism to exist.
I find the above highly unlikely as white people came into existence once and to argue a similar or equivalent population cannot arise in an area with enough sunlight to cause a preference for darker skin seems dubious at best.
If you worried about degeneration you can do like the breeders did and kick out all children with the improper phenotype (i.e not all white people live up to this ideal phenotype).
It’s so good that Obsidian is gone. Like all his detractors said, he was all about race-baiting 24/7. Now that he’s gone, all the race-baiting and taunting is gone. Big improvement. [/sarcasm off]
What anonymous said. This is the last time I’m bothering with such a topic on here, as it just dissolves into ranting.
*yawn*
Nullpointer,
That’s a very fancy way to avoid the simple truth: Whites build superior societies, and then non-Whites try desperately to follow them to said societies. You can talk all day about correlation or phenotype or anything else that impresses the easily impressed, but you can’t refute my SIMPLE truth. White people (and NE Asians) make great civilizations. Brown people make stagnant or declining civilizations. Black people ruin and are incapable of creating or sustaining civilization. Some Whites just want to be left alone in their White societies, even if there are super-genius, power-lifting, Ivy league Blacks/browns/mongrels to serve as the “exception.” I’m sorry, I know you this amazing mamzer is a valuable individual, as Parrott said, he’s “Super.” But he’s not White. And NOT average or representative, rather, he is an OUTLIER.
re: Whiteness
Does anyone here dispute there is such thing as a Black person? An Asian? Probably not, if they have a lick of sense. But due to decades of anti-White “critical studies” and academic race-denial, there are credulous people STILL piping off about how there is no such thing as WHITE people.
OK, fine. No such thing as White people. So you don’t mind if we have a world of exclusively White people, right? Nothing wrong with that, it’s just a social construct. Please. Race is real and there is a racial type that can be further broken down into subgroup: White…Nordic…Alpine…Dinaric…Mediterranean.. Call it whatever you’d like, Causasian, European, Europid. But don’t feed us these lies and distortions about doubting the existence of White people.
PS Genghis Khan conquered a lot. They also say he had red hair. But either way, he did not build complex societies. He just conquered a lot of land. Amazing in its own right but that’s not a good example of building a successful civilization. He was an insanely-success warlord.
Wow.
When I was a kid(well, a younger kid…14-16) I used to spend an inordinate amount of time debating on Stormfront. I was idealistic and figured I could change the racists’ minds. I later realized correctly that it was a waste of time and quit bothering with them-the anti-black(and anti-everyone else save for whites) drivel they spew really gets tiring after a while.
And yet here they are again in the manosphere. They’re all over Roissy’s old blog, and now seem to have taken root here at In Mala fide among other places. And they’re spouting the same tired rhetoric I got used to countering from them way back when(“you mixed, you ended your white genes!”, blah, blah, blah).
Obsidian got banned for race-baiting. To be honest, I see the logic behind the action, but why are all of these blatant racists all over this blog now?
The delusional narrative in the minds of most White Nationalists and White Supremacists is one of “The Immutable Superiority of Whiteness”.
That is, that the current geopolitical, social, cultural and economic hegemony held by Anglo-Europeans is due strictly to partitioned genetic factors.
It is not due to the narrow “Fertile Crescent” of highly arable land extending diagonally from Turkey up to Germany which allowed for stabilized agriculture and animal husbandry for thousands of years.
It is not due to geography and irregular resource distribution driving historical inter-ethnic conflict and cross-continental exchange which then spurned the advancement of martial and utility technologies up to the modern age.
It is not due to brutal domestic class stratification and then worldwide colonialism giving rise to relatively cheap manpower, goods and energy sources.
It is not due to the U.S. corporate, banking and military industrial complexes exploiting the all but destroyed infrastucture and geopolitical spheres of allies post World War I and World War II for gain.
It is not due to any of these rational and easily corroborated facts; No — It is due to their belief in the mystical ability of that socio-cultural concept known as WHITENESS.
To those skeptical of the claims and aims of White Nationalists and White Supremacists, know that the nature of their FAITH in their Elected Nature as the VANGUARD of their “Peoples” prevents them from seeing any logistical or logical fallacy that bolsters their ego and self-esteem.
For this reason, much like any zealotous cultist you may encounter, it is best to be wary and aware of them — But generally to avoid being drawn into THEIR perceptual frame of false victimhood through argument.
Anytime someone defends White interests, people bring up SUPERIORITY. Question: If Whites want racial partition, how can there be any of this oppression or supremacism, at all? There cannot. It is impossible. All we’re saying is that we don’t want non-Whites to hang around us and leach off of us, and what do we get for it? People call us supremacist.
Supremacy and Superiority
No race is supreme or superior. You can only compare the average ability or best examples of a race on specific abilities. West African Bantus are superior at sprinting and jumping (watch the 100 meter dash or the NBA). They also have superior bone density. But that same density makes them poor swimmers. Here’s where the “supremacy” BS comes up. Whites seem to be superior in the things that COUNT. Civilization. Intelligence. Creativity.
Joseph Sobran:
“Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It’s Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of Western power long after colonialism, imperialism, and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don’t grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn’t conscious of it. And, superiority excites envy. Destroying white civilization is the inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call minorities.”
Minorities realize they are the children of the White world, desperately clinging to the guardianship and good will of others, never able to live as free and independent adults. So Whites get called supremacists and oppressors. After decades and trillions of dollars of non-White handouts, redistribution schemes, and social programs, Whites are still these evil supremacist racists.
“socio-cultural concept known as whiteness”
Let’s point out the obvious: NOBODY denies the existence of ANY other race. It is only Whites who are demonized and denigrated as a social construct. I will not accept your evil, genocidal characterization of my race. It is wrong to deny the existence of my race just so you can wipe it off the planet with miscegenation, anti-White discrimination, and the imminent violence that happens whenever Whites find themselves in the minority (e.g. US inner cities, South Africa, former Rhodesia).
You have NO RIGHT to deny the existence of the White race. If there’s no White race, I suppose you won’t mind if the entire world consists of ONLY White people? Of course you would. That’s wrong. Every race has the right to exist, including the White race.
The biggest supremacists and haters and bigots are not White Nationalists or defenders of White rights. The worst of the lot are anti-White people who do nothing but spew venom against Whites, blame them for everything, and call for their slow genocide through intermarriage, income distribution, and overwhelming non-White immigration into all White nations and only White nations.
Tell us, why do you hate Whites so much? Why are you so anti-White? What did Whites ever do to you that makes your heart so cold and black? How can you justify White genocide?
By the way, Ruby Rothstein, your Mommy Professor forgot to tell you something about the Fertile Crescent. AFRICA has the largest and most fertile farmland and natural resources in the world, bar-none. Why isn’t Africa booming with intelligent and productive people?
Oh, I forgot. You believe in environmentalist explanations, like that which Jared Diamond proposes in Guns, Germs, and Steel. That’s cute. The problem is that theory is completely and 100% false, and Jared Diamond is a known race-denier. He denies it right at the beginning of his book!
How can environmentalism and natural resource endowment theory explain the rise of Japan (tiny island, few natural resources). Why isn’t Mexico a bigger economic player, since it is teeming with natural resources and arable land (hint: it’s full of Mexicans). How in the world is Iceland doing so well in that cold, desolate place?
Some people will just never admit what is front of their noses: race matters. Culture and civilization is the expression of race.
Race is not a social construct. SOCIETY is a RACIAL construct. If you replace Mexico with Swedish people, it will improve. If you replace Sweden with Mexicans, it will devolve.
If Africa and Europe switch populations, in 100 years Europe will be using candles and hacking each other’s arms off, and Africa will be a major center of commerce with stable and successful civilization.
Well said, Realist. You’re obviously correct, and the detractors here are obviously motivated by anti-white sentiment.
The thing is, when someone points out some accomplishment of Asians or Jews you aren’t going to see butt-hurt Whites crying, whining about oppression, or playing the victim and demanding compensation. This is what Blacks do, for example, because they don’t have ANY historical achievements to take pride in. Hell, they haven’t even contributed a cogent religion or philosophical system. And no, voodoo doesn’t count. They are parasitic everywhere they go, and there’s nothing oppressive about Whites wanting to live without them.
If the Negro is entitled to lift himself up by enforced association with the white man, why should not the white man be entitled to prevent himself from being pulled down by enforced association with the Negro? – William T. Polk
Err… wow. Philosophically, I’m all for finding a place where you can be as white as you want to be. Practically speaking, there’s not an infinite amount of land.
I don’t have time correct your misinformation in detail, but you should read Jared Diamonds book in closer detail. His thesis was that north south transfer of agriculture and pastoralism was much more difficult than east west transfer. He backed this up with up a wide spectrum of evidence. This is a gross over-simplification as he discussed the adaptable plants and animals of the Americas vs Africa vs Eurasia. Apparently all the linguistic, climatic, and other anthropological evidence is irrelevant, because white and (NE Asians) build better societies.
Please don’t try to contradict Jared Diamond with such poor justification. I’m open to the idea that he is wrong and a race-denier, but simply stating does not make his idea wrong (ad hominem fallacy).
Black people have been very unlucky and its unfortunate, because as a result a lot of their accomplishments get lost in the fray. If you stop saying negroes suck for a second you might start finding examples of what American blacks have done, as well as evidence of large African empires that impressively resisted colonial rule. Africa is a clusterfuck of colonialism that is useless for the purpose of extrapolating inferences on negroes.
In South America, the mapuche adapted European technology quickly and were able to hold their independence until they helped with Chilean independence and then got screwed over as a result.
Japan is a poor example due to vibrant trade with China. When they shutdown and stagnated our dear Rear Admiral Perry showed up with advanced ships and intimated the Japanese into the future. China got raped by Japan in WWII (rape of nanking, second sino-japanese war), but recently Japan had to release the Chinese ship captain illegally fishing in their waters (you want your rare earth metals?).
If you really want a place for whites, where you’ll be left alone, you’re going to have to find an inhospitable piece of land that nobody wants. Otherwise, you’re gonna have a heck of time defending it without your non-white separatist former countrymen. You could start something like the free state project that the libertarians tried– Alaska has tons of natural resources and a clean food supply. They’ve already got a good pro-white base and if you all moved there and seceded I’d be all for it. If white are so good at empire building you could eventually take over Canada and show the world how its done.
Where’s the pro-active solution oriented white spirit? Get ‘er done!
Blah blah blah I’m so smart look at my credentials Whites don’t have a right to self-determination or to keep their own cultures and resources intact I wish I had more time to tell you how stupid you are but I don’t right now blank slate blah blah blah
@nullpointer,
This is transparent BS. There are vast swaths of relatively habitable land in the United States alone that are essentially uninhabited. The bottom line now is that we have no political power, so you can play your cheeky shtick of “Sorry, little buddy, the Earth just doesn’t have enough room for any White people.”
Of course, if I were to invert the equation and declare that there wasn’t enough room in the world for mixed-race people, I would be vilified.
Diamond begins his book with an explicit declaration of bias against White people and an irrational refusal to consider that humans have innate group differences in intelligence. His book is overwhelmingly true, but it deliberately leaves out a huge piece of the puzzle: Those serendipitous geographical advantages in agricultural, animal domestication, and military technology shared throughout the fertile temperate belt also conferred a genetic advantage over time.
The 10,000 Year Explosion maps out how a lot of these relatively recent factors, many of which Diamond brings to bear, appear to have genetically altered us, as well. How could things with such a dramatic effect on our habitat not genetically alter us?
Black people are awesome, and much of America’s cultural contributions have been due to the cultural and artistic synergies that come with Whites leveraging their resources and media technologies to tap into the Black American imagination. They ain’t that bright and they ain’t that safe. But I’ve never said they suck. I guess if there’s a race out there that really sucks, it’s the Andamanese negrito. Those folks have nothing going for them.
We’re charging our laser.
Translation: Their arguments are persuasive. But as the adult in the room, I order you to dismiss them as crazies and keep walking. Don’t let them suck you into their hypnotic “We have a right to exist” voodoo word games. Nothing to see, here.
@Matt Parrott
A laser who’s theoretical foundations were set by a Jew. Gotta love it.
You will maintain intensive agriculture on this land, how? You’re going to have to trade with some very unsavory folks as well as people who aren’t going to trust you. You think a large more effective society won’t ever disenfranchise you? Doesn’t necessarily need to be a multi-cultural one. Chinese, Indians, and others have a lot of mouths to feed. It’s gonna get rough.
I’m not disagreeing with you on the possibility that populations have innate differences. I’m saying you have no metric, with which to turn that into a useful statement. Populations have parameters and you can estimate those parameters from samples of a population, but you can’t extend that into a useful mathematical framework for expressing your idea of whiteness. I can’t cite this, but if I recall correctly intra-racial variation in blacks is greater than the inter-racial variation between whites and blacks. Mitochondrial DNA comes from what seven women.
In addition, I don’t see a conclusive link between the environment and increasing complexity that justifies the accelerated evolutionary claims you make. Mexicans had wheels they just used them on toys (just a single example). I’m sure there’s somebody out there with a theory about how spending all your time fighting and doing agriculture made white people smarter, but pre-pastoral cultures could identify thousands of herbs and effects by memory alone.
Whites have a history of taking other people’s ideas and using them in creative new ways (advanced sailing & pastoralism from arabs as an example). This maybe a result of forced interaction within the small space in Europe and trying to eek out every advantage possible to kill each other, but there’s been plenty of other societies in Eurasia that had equal or greater success (in particular the Chinese), but due to their isolation lost the impetus. Has this made the Chinese dumb? Does losing Jerusalem to renewed Islamic vigor in the later crusades make the west dumb or weak? As the mapuche in the south of Chile showed, taking technology, mastering it, and improving it is not an inherently “white” quality.
In summary, I’m all for your white separatist homeland. In fact, I recommend taking a look at Chile there are already groups set up down there. They’re quite unsavory though as they tend to kill hikers that go into the wrong places. I do disagree with the magnitude of the credit you give to genetic evolution as the reason for success of western society. I have to recommend reading “Fooled by Randomness”. Looking at a successful society is the ultimate source of success bias. You only see the society we’re in that made it, you never see all the other societies that were identical (often made up of white people) who were not so lucky and just died out (at some point in the past). Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there are some differences, but I think there’s a lot of assumptions that I don’t think we’ll be able to settle.
I never claimed to be somehow “pure” of influence of non-White non-gentile cultures. I’m all about learning about and learning from other people. I just believe there’s a line to be drawn the crossing of which results in threatening the integrity of your people. You can learn karate and enjoy Coen Brothers films without agreeing to the wholesale replacement of your people.
If Icelanders can have paradise on Earth atop a craggy island in the frigid North, Dutchmen can create their own nation from scratch through draining the ocean, and Mormons can establish a celestial homeland in the arid West, then we can figure it out. Don’t worry yourself about whether we sink or swim once you allow us off your boat.
Stop for a moment and try to actually parse what you’re saying. It means nothing. It’s as asinine as noting that physical strength varies more within gender than between gender, as if that negates the very real differences in the strengths of the two genders.
That was a really long time ago. And it’s not like this means there were seven chicks during the bottleneck, only the seven of the female lineages exist unbroken into the present. While this would only mean there had been a bottleneck about 120,000 years ago, it means even less in light of the discovery that Eurasians have a small but significant amount of Neanderthal admixture, pushing the actual evolutionary divergence between the populations higher than 500,000 years.
A casual stroll will confirm that there was no shortage of genetic diversity within the genome for humans to diverge into radically different forms with radically different characteristics in a relatively short span of time.
In a sparsely populated and environmentally challenging habitat, you don’t have to worry as much about being killed by somebody who’s smarter than you. The higher population densities and more free time that people in the temperate belt had afforded them more opportunities to engage in male territorial aggression, causing a race condition in which human intelligence evolved in competition with human intelligence. It’s a familiar evolutionary template.
The human brain is analogous to a deer’s antlers or a rhino’s horn. It’s there for killing other male humans. The fact that increased intelligence also enabled them to even more efficiently populate the environment was merely an added bonus, one that caused more overpopulation and more male territorial aggression. Female humans are almost as intelligent, but only because most of the genes for increased intelligence were gender-neutral.
Female thinking is evolutionarily vestigial. Women have abstract thoughts for the same reason men have nipples.
At the beginning of this back and forth, I asserted that my official reason for separatism was a simple wholesome nationalist love of my ethnic extended family that didn’t need justified and existed independently of all this scientific stuff. I just indulged in a digression. I agree that blog’s comment section is not the most fruitful medium for seriously resolving these more subtle and specific tangents.
The Icelanders almost didn’t make it and the Greenlanders got wiped out by the Inuit. They also got their asses handed to them when they tried land in Nova Scotia (New Vinland?). As someone who supports your ideas, I’ve actually made a couple of reasonable suggestions where you could strategically implement them (Alaska, Chile, Argentina). I’d really prefer you guys not choose Chile, because I’d prefer to continue being able to hike around in patagonia without the threat of accidentally stumbling on to a commune.
The Aztecs, Mayans, Incans, and others developed significant societies they just lacked some food and other advantages (horses). They also didn’t have the Chinese to invent rockets/gunpowder and Arabs to invent Algebra.
As I said previously, your theory is plausible, but I’d give some of the other people who are sub-classes or closely related to “white” (Jews, Slavs, Arabs) a bit more credit.
LMAO. I neither agree nor disagree, but that was fucking hilarious.
That sounds fair. Your ubermensch genes will allow you to claim territory stretching from Chile to the #1 applied math school of the USA. You have the right to your homeland, AND you also have the right to everyone else’s homeland. Sounds fair to me.
I still don’t think you understand the biology of genetics, though.
@ “The Aztecs, Mayans, Incans, and others developed significant societies they just lacked some food and other advantages (horses).”
Sorry but this is a myth. Amerindians practiced infanticide on a gigantic scale. The Aztecs and the Mayans even practiced child sacrifice and child cannibalism. Not even Mel Gibson dared to expose the naked truth about the pre-Columbian world in his film. The cultural relativist Professor has brainwashed many of us. In reality, Mesoamerica was the place of a culture composed of serial killers. See part of my book on pre-Columbian America here.
ive been reading these threads and i have never read comments by such a bunch of intellectual wannabees in my life.i also wonder where people get their information,just a bunch of people willing to make up history in order to make themselves feel better.why do other white people jump on the liberal
radical band wagon and and act like they are offended by other whites wanting to preserve their heritage.brainwashed by the public school system
into thinking whites should be ashamed of how they whooped every colored ass on the face of the earth.well if being a racist is being proud of being white
,so be it,i will be the best racist i can be.i mean whites could have conquered africa,but we chose not to,now the greatest continent on earth is being squandered by a bunch of dough headed nig nogs and soon to be picked clean by the chinese.whites could have been a lot worse so fuk off,we will continue
kicking ass until we are all incinerated by a man made natural disaster created by our government in order to eliminate half the worlds population.
they wouldn’t do that, you say,think again,it is the only solution.thanks to colored peoples breeding habits,we all gotta suffer..
(my son,ask for thyself a new kingdom,for the one which i leave is too small for thee.)father of alexander the great…
i know my comment was off subject, it was more of a comment on the other comments,left by other wishy washy white apologists.join the white race assholes.
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