Yesterday, Chuck Ross wrote on the pervasiveness of passive-aggressive behavior among American blacks:
Thus it follows that African-Americans are the most passive aggressive beings on earth**. My girlfriend calls them “slow walkersâ€. Some people call them other things. Regardless, the situation, as it now stands, is that black people feel powerless in society therefore they behave in ways that garner them little power nuggets. This behavior could occur in traffic or at grocery stores or restaurants or at movie theaters. Often you’ll see them sitting in a chair, maybe at a crowded restaurant, unwilling to move out of the way of passers-by with a look on their face that just begs someone to bump into them. If it happens, rest assured the black person will elicit an “excuse youâ€. Their passive-aggressiveness can involve the practice of “nigger time†– a term I didn’t coin – in which blacks show up late because it allows them to ultimately control the agenda at hand.
As a waiter, I observe tiny acts of passive-aggression handed out by blacks on a constant basis. They complain about everything. I’d estimate that 25% of black people, when shown to their particular table, ask the host/ess for another table. The only other demographic who even comes close to this statistic is middle-aged white men who also often tend towards passive-aggression and power grabs. Even then, middle aged white men aren’t nearly as picky in this regard as blacks in general. Blacks aren’t happy with the first table they are shown regardless of if it’s the best table in the house. They will choose another less attractive table location just to have that tiny parcel of control over their situation and the person seating them. They are obstinate in their menu perusal. Thirty minute menu browsing isn’t abnormal for them. No matter how they ordered their food, it is often not right. They request condiments, and “samples†and refills of items they ultimately don’t end up using. They might argue that they are just more willing to speak up when things aren’t to their liking, but I have more of a feeling that things aren’t to their liking because it helps them wrangle up control.
As an example, he linked to the recent viral video of a dumbass black kid dancing in traffic and getting hit by an ice cream truck:
Passive aggressiveness may explain this moron’s move, but something I witnessed recently suggests that it’s simpler than that.
A couple days ago, I was walking to buy some beer from a nearby Stewart’s Shop, through the part of town where the student ghetto meets the actual ghetto. A bunch of black kids, I’m guessing ages five to seven, were playing with a ball in the street. This is not a side street mind you, but one of the major arteries through the city, with four lanes, a 30 mph speed limit and plenty of traffic during the day. One of the kids accidentally bounced the ball to the other side of the street and another ran across to get it – right as a car was bearing down that way.
Fortunately, the driver, a thirtysomething black woman in a suit, hit her brakes in time to keep our heroic munchkin from being turned into roadkill. She then put the car in park and got out to yell at the little brat. “What are you DOING! I almost hit you! You could have been killed!” She raged at this kid for about thirty seconds, during which he didn’t say anything and didn’t look fazed at all. She then got back in her car and drove off. Ten seconds later, the kid had his ball and was again playing in the street with his friends.
During the whole thing I just stared and thought. Where’s these kids’ mothers to tell them not to play in traffic or they’ll get run over? Where’s their fathers? Oh wait, they don’t have fathers, and their mommas are too busy watching Maury or getting banged by thug cock to watch their kids. Or maybe they just don’t care. I learned a while ago that many white trash teenage girls out in the country who have kids do so not because they don’t know about or can’t afford contraception (as the idiot sex-ed loving liberals claim) but because they WANT to. Being at the absolute bottom of the socioeconomic totem pole, having a fuck trophy gives them someone to boss around. Don’t see why it couldn’t be the same for inner-city ghetto trash.
Maybe Tashawn the Traffic Dancer up there was doing what he did to screw around with straitlaced white people who keep their heads down and follow the rules. Or maybe his mom never told him that playing in traffic was a stupid thing to do. Fuckin’ lumpenproles.
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Thank you for posting this. Thank you. I don’t know what my level of racism is, as I know many wonderful and intelligent black people and try to give everyone a chance to defy negative stereotypes, but unfortunately, too many do not. Primarily I think the black populations problem is cultural. I think this article nailed the reason why. Resentment. I get resentment. I’m hardly immune to it, but let me remind black people that resentment goes both ways. And I think this attitude that seems to pervade many black communities isn’t analyzed or talked about within their community. Its like a lack of self awareness on a cultural level, and the fear of other races to speak up about it, that means it will never go away. This anymosity isn’t just directed at white people either. Its been internalized to such a degree that black people often treat each other with a similiar disrespect. The only difference is that when a black person disrespects another black person, that person can react back. As a white person, we are chained by the racism card. Black people get away with this subtle passive-aggrssive shit because they can, but they are only shooting themselves in the foot in the long run. People remember these types of behavior. It reinforces whatever racism is already out there. If I was a leader in the black community, I would urge blacks to be as polite and respectful to others as they can be. But that would be the smart thing to do, so this veil of anymosity between the two races will continue that prevents us from ever truly understanding one another.
I’m back living in Brooklyn, U.S.A., while my marriage unwinds, and I encounter this all the time on the subway and the street. I also find that a confident attitude and no trace of hesitation leads the passive-aggressive to back right off. Doesn’t hurt that I’m 6″1′ and 290 lbs., but my 5″3′ female friend can get the same reaction.
Jabberwocky,
Passive-aggressive behavior, mostly among young black Americans, stems from a confusing mix of resentment and entitlement.
Even though, by Roissysphere standards this behavior is considered “Alpha”, it really is just anti-social and anti-assimilative.
The reason why it persists is because, for the large part, the rest of America lets it go by unchallenged. Whether it be Liberals who harbor ‘White Guilt’ or other folks who are afraid of raising the “Wyld Black Beast”, prone to acts of violence and criminality.
The solution: Treat Prole and anti-social people with the same aggressiveness — passive or otherwise — as you. Do it cautiously, of course, so as not be cornered into participating in race baiting or physical confrontation. Whether it be black ghettoites, white trash, Indian bourgeoisie-wannabes or whatever, bring the ‘ire to them.
While I am no fan of such behavior, we forget that less than 40 years ago- blacks were openly called subhuman in the US. The important part of that statement is “less than 40 years ago”.
Don’t expect people to play nice if you treat them like shit. It takes about 2 generations for the bad blood to go away.
Asians, Indians, African/ Caribbean Blacks are usually not that passive-aggressive because most of them came after 1968, and had an entirely different experience.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole “legacy of racism” thing is bullshit. I don’t even want to hear it any more. If you want people to stop thinking of you as subhuman, stop acting like a subhuman.
And why should whitey play nice if blacks treat whitey like shit, as blacks manifestly do now in every possible way that is open to them (to include murder and rape)?
He survived because the truck hit him at a glancing (sideways) blow. If he had been a couple of feet higher up on the road, he would have been killed instantly against a head on impact with a solid ice cream truck.
This is the first time I’ve heard about bitches desire to have a child so they have someone to use as an emotional tampon. There are lots of sheeple being born into this world everyday.
“Maybe Tashawn the Traffic Dancer” was either being passive aggressive or his mama didn’t teach him not to play in traffic – succinct and spot on. This passive-aggressive behavior is also very common among Han Chinese, but they use it as a group rather than as individuals. Both in the U.S. and in Singapore, it’s common for gaggles of giggling Chinese girls to monopolize the sidewalk or mall aisle and pretend obliviousness to anyone trying to get past (maintains face, of course). When I first arrived in Singapore (not as a tourist), after being lectured about the purported primacy of law and order there, I cautioned my spouse about jay walking. Of course, first day out, we saw almost no one observing cross walks, just waves and waves of people weaving among traffic – again, not individually, but collectively.
Caribbean blacks drop the passive part and exaggerate the aggressive part. This is partly due to the fact that they live in majority black countries, and their countrymen will meet passive-aggressive behavior with typical violence. They will demand deference, money, aid, assistance, whatever from whites as their due and as penance for “colonialism.” (Yes, I’ve lived among them as well, and speak from experience).
You realize the trucke example is not an indicator of passive-aggresiveness. He’s just stupid to be dancing in the street, same as white skateboarders are for skatign in the street. It doesn’t help your argument at all.
And secondly, all these comments sounds slightly like bitching and not being able to man up.
all these comments sounds slightly like bitching and not being able to man up.
Shaming alert.
No not really. Someone was walking in my way as if I was the one that should move. That’s alpha, braggadociously alpha but alpha nonetheless. Is it not beta to shy out the way then complain about it later.
I mean for guys that purport the alpha mindset and lifestyle, itsn’t one of it’s biggest ideals to brush off things and not letting shit get you down?
Or I’ll put it this way, doesn’t a alpha know he is in control of his world and others merely come into it, so someone with their weights in the middle of the aisle should move out the alphas way and not push the alpha around? Or is it beta to speak up?
I’m getting confused from all the race conversations in the man-o-sphere lately. Alot of supposed alphas seem to exhibit quite a few beta responses to everday sniffles.
Once in a while ill drive in NYC. I’m in the fucking car, I have the right of way, I have no desire to kill or maim anyone.
Young black people will walk – slowly- in traffic. There were times when i was driving 30mph and i needed to hit the breaks hard or swerve in order to avoid hitting them.
They temp fate by playing chicken in traffic.
I see it regularly. Black woman do it as well. They are telling the world:
“Traffic will stop for me.“
Video was hilarious, and as a black guy, I can tell you that this is true. However, I don’t think it’s a “black” thing. Lower class ghetto people of all backgrounds have the same passive-aggressive behaviors.
Worse than that: at times they will illegally cross a busy intersection, and slowly walk across, making every single vehicle slam on the breaks.
If a driver is distracted for a second, they will get hit, brutally.
Thank you sir; I shall enjoy the “Bardamu Bump” that’s undoubtedly coming my way.
I should point out one thing in response to escarondito who believes that the dude doin’ tha Dougie wasn’t behaving passive aggressively. While I admit that his behavior isn’t a classic case of P.A., I do note that he looked at the vehicle careening towards him at a moderate speed and still continued to dance. He created a difficult situation for the ice cream truck driver by forcing the ice cream truck driver to make a move when.
So this isn’t the same type of passive-aggression as “slow walking” or “clowning on whites” (it’s passive aggressive because we know they’re talking shit about us, but we can’t understand what the fuck they’re saying) that so many blacks like to engage in, but it generally has similar outcomes. In both types of situations, the black person behaves in a way that sets everyone else up for failure. I fail by speeding past blacks on the sidewalk. I fail by calling them out on their shit talking. I fail by chastizing them for cutting in line. I fail by plowing into a motherfucker dancing in the street for no good reason. I don’t want to be forced to fail or to look like an uptight prick. I just want to stand in line by myself while pretending to check out sports scores or drive in traffic listening to Jason Mraz. I’d rather not deal with confrontation or about preserving my masculation.
I second Steve T.’s remarks and remarks made by PA (the commenter) at my place. These are shit tests doled out by black people. Generally if you respond to them in a stern way, they’ll respect you and stop fucking with you. But you still run a higher than normal risk of getting jumped and/or shot.
Shiela – “Both in the U.S. and in Singapore, it’s common for gaggles of giggling Chinese girls to monopolize the sidewalk or mall aisle and pretend obliviousness to anyone trying to get past”
I see this more from lower-class Hispanic’s (Like Assanova says, “Lower class ghetto people of all backgrounds have the same passive-aggressive behaviors.”
Groups of them will walk together, very slowly in ways that are almost certainly intended to make it difficult for others to navigate around them. Some drive very slowly in lanes intended for faster traffic. Obviously able-bodied Hispanics routinely park in the handi-capped spaces. And, often, when asked to correct behaviors (in English), they pretend not to understand – although they can be overheard yukking it up afterwards, often using English.
I find this is common with adolescents of any age: blocking the path for other people.
The more of them there are, the worse it is.
Don’t see why it couldn’t be the same for inner-city ghetto trash.
Actually, I agree with that assessment. A lot of these girls want a baby because it’s an easy ticket to escaping mommy (and sometimes daddy’s) control via housing assistance. We’ve weeded out the teen pregnancy problem to a certain extent, but much of the trouble remains in that 18-21 segment of girls who live at home with their parents with no post-secondary education or training. The only way that they can afford to move out is via housing assistance which they won’t get if they’re single and without children. So to a poor teen girl, having a kid is a de facto ticket to adulthood, an attention magnet, and way to get an apartment. In contrast, middle class girls have interventionist parents, higher IQ which inhibits questionable thinking that allows one to think a baby is a “solution”, and actual hopes and dreams (and lifestyle aspirations) that are attainable.
Plus, I suspect the girls get tingles from the alpha males that show interest in them.
I would urge blacks to be as polite and respectful to others as they can be.
While it’s a sensible solution, the problem is that some would see it as being too accomodationist and reeking of the the pre-Civil Rights Era of blacks forced into being meek, humbled people at the mercy of whites. It just seems to reinforce that status of being “inferior” to whites, so I suspect that for some, being passive aggressive is their only way of expressing some sentiment of being equal to white people. How else can you prove your “equality” when you’re earning low wages in a blue collar job when compared to somebody earning high wages in a white collar job?
I see it regularly. Black woman do it as well. They are telling the world:
“Traffic will stop for me.“
I suspect it may also have to do with the fact that if they get hit, they’ll sue you (and your insurance company) for a sizable sum of money with the help of an attorney.
OneSTD said:
What fucking arguments? That the commenters being addressed are little bitches that need to man up and take their passive aggressive ass fucking? That isn’t an argument. It’s a veiled ad hominem; which is what shaming language is.
Have a problem with no fault divorce, DV laws, alimony, child support? A real man would just take that shit and shut the fuck up. Man up. There is no argument being presented there.
Turn that argument around in this discussion.
Ok, go ahead and address the argument. Or you could just ‘man up’ (which is synonymous with sit the fuck down, and shut the fuck up.)
For everyone else, we should just accept the fact that this behavior is probably largely genetic. Those goofy fuckers that managed to get hit by ice cream trucks and walk away with intact nutsacks are probably going to have half a dozen kids with as many women.
Sexual liberation doesn’t promote the worker bee black guys having large broods. Given regression to the mean of those few offspring among intelligent, adjusted blacks and urban core America is a genetic singularity.
There is a big lake in my city along which is a very busy road. There is a barrier on the side of the road facing the lake. Between the barrier and the lake there is maybe 20-25 feet of space for walking or running. Right next to the barrier there is a sidewalk that is much higher than the rest of the space to the lake. The sidewalk is maybe 5 feet wide and then there are two-three steep steps, each of which is maybe a foot drop in elevation from the one above it. At the bottom of the steps there is maybe 20 feet of pavement to the lake.
Several years ago I was running along the lake on a hot summer weekend day. The paths were very crowded that day and some blacks that live in housing projects several miles away were walking along the paths. If was so crowded that the only place with a lot of available space was on the sidewalk. A few hundred yards in front of me I saw an obese black woman walking with three black boys who were probably around 10 years of age. Those people were walking on the half of the sidewalk to my left. However, when the boys saw me running toward them I could see them laughing and then they moved over to take up nearly the entire width of the sidewalk. I’m sure they figured that I would either have to stop running or hop down onto one of the stairs to run past them. However, if I had done either of those things, I could have possibly injured myself. So I decided that I would keep running and if they were intelligent, they would move. I twisted my torso to try to squeeze by them by they didn’t move. I was running pretty quickly and hit on of those punks square with my shoulder and barreled right over him. I didn’t turn around but I probably knocked the one closest to me off his feet and into the other two and I kept running. The morbidly obese woman with them started yelling and saying something like, “We gone git you!”
I thought it was hilarious. I am certain that those little punks only tried to play “chicken” with me because I am white and they assumed that they would force me to alter my running path on their account. I never would have behaved the way they did when I was a kid.
During the whole thing I just stared and thought. Where’s these kids’ mothers to tell them not to play in traffic or they’ll get run over? Where’s their fathers? Oh wait, they don’t have fathers, and their mommas are too busy watching Maury or getting banged by thug cock to watch their kids. Or maybe they just don’t care. I learned a while ago that many white trash teenage girls out in the country who have kids do so not because they don’t know about or can’t afford contraception (as the idiot sex-ed loving liberals claim) but because they WANT to. Being at the absolute bottom of the socioeconomic totem pole, having a fuck trophy gives them someone to boss around. Don’t see why it couldn’t be the same for inner-city ghetto trash.
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Thank you for posting this. Thank you. I don’t know what my level of racism is, as I know many wonderful and intelligent black people and try to give everyone a chance to defy negative stereotypes, but unfortunately, too many do not.
I work at a hotel so I’m privy to all walks of life. It’s to the point now where if anyone with a darker than my Dutch/Irish ancestral skin tone checks in, I keep a closer eye and assign them a room that will cause the minimum amount of damage if shit hits the fan.
Obviously, I’m consciously aware of this and it IS NOT because I’m a racist. I’m playing the percentages. I’ve been through it all enough times to know. I wasn’t like this my first year of hotel operation…
Sirsisyphus:
I’m in the service industry myself, as mentioned in Ferd’s piece. I wasn’t the way I am not when I first started waiting tables. I was brought up to revere black people for some reason. I held them in higher esteem than regular folks – part of some kind of liberal indoctrination. But I’ve learned. Yeah, most of it has to do with socioeconomic status, but the thing is that poor white people, while they are often rude and crude, *still* can’t play the race card like blacks can. So even though many people will try to tell us that blacks act the way they do because they are less well off than whites, they are forgetting that blacks behave obtrusively and obstinately because they can usually get away with it.
And for the record, *every* black person I’ve ever worked with has a similar outlook on “black tables” as I do.
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