As an addendum to the previous post, I present The Fifth Horseman’s Four Horsemen of Male Vengeance, which sheds some light on some issues I forgot to bring up:
One thing about women is that they accept whatever status quo exists in the world they live in. They have no ability to predict shifting winds, or prepare for societal changes.
Right after 9/11, when Americans were exposed to the subjugation of women in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, I could not help but notice that it was American MEN who were pounding the table about oppression of burka’ed women. American single women didn’t seem to care one bit about the plight of women under the Taliban, even though these SWPL women are the ones who benefit the most from American society vs. Islamic society.
I never see SWPL women wanting to protect womens rights in the Islamic world. Similarly, I never see Islamic women trying to escape to the West.
Conclusion : Women like to live in their own bubbles, and be unaware of the outside world.
Thus, just as the 4 horsemen (the pill, no fault divorce, etc.) gave women power and created the feminist-dominated society we have today, many average women are being hurt, but they simply will not challenge the status quo.
The 4 horsemen of Male Vengeace will soon be upon us, swinging the pendulum back our way. These 4 horsemen are :
1) Increasing Islamic immigration into the West
2) Sex technologies for the Beta (3-D/VR sex and sexbots). Anyone who says this cannot replace a real woman has to also note that the virtual woman will be a 10, while the real world options for the man might just be 5s or 6s. So it is a virtual 10 competing with real 5s. The real 5s lose.
3) More men learning Game
4) More lower-income men getting disenfranchised, and banding together to take things by force (usually from women).
Of course, women lack the vision to anticipate these 4 simultaneous forces that will topple the feminist utopia by 2020. Women accept the status quo now, they will accept the new status quo then.
I wholeheartedly agree with the above.
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Of course don’t buy any 3-D V.R. sex aid or sexbot unless it comes with David Alexander’s Tick of Approval.
It is the same with blacks being offended by slavery 150 years ago in the USA, but not about slavery in Africa or the Arab world today. Won’t lift one finger to care about it.
*Goggles into the Metaverse. Looks for sexbots.*
On a serious note, I think that the “sexbot revolution” will be either (a) a non-event, or (b) a societal catastrophe. There’s no middle ground, and it relies upon both (a) the success of technology and (b) whether men still care about “the real thing”.
Men want to have loving wives (real, human wives) and children. A sexual robot can’t fulfill this need, and high-beta men are still going to suffer the dating charade in order to achieve this. On the other hand, VR quite possibly can. If VR technologies, interfaced directly with the human brain, are successful, we could see “escapism” on a scale never seen before. People may place their entire emotional investment into an electronic hallucination, and leave the “real world” an abandoned ghetto. I think it’s unlikely, but it could happen.
Perfection of in vitro fertilization and artificial wombs will address the issue of reproduction.
I don’t worry about that.
I worry (a little; I don’t lose sleep over it) about the Snow Crash phenomenon, where a “Metaverse” is so engrossing and preferable to “reality” that the physical world is abandoned due to widespread escapism.
Also you have to realize the potential that sexbots and VR have to pacify the middle betas and lower. In the past we had wars and castration to handle the problem of these excess males, but perhaps sexbots will be a more humane way to keep this large group of men relatively productive but excluded from the reproductive gene pool.
Hasn’t this already happened, to a limited extent, in things like World of Warcraft and Second Life?
The main limitation on these now is that there is only so much you can do with them. When the platforms become fully virtual, including sensations and the like, the phenomenon of WoW will seem like a minor thing, I think, precisely because such a VR existence allows the participant to customize themselves to a much greater extent than real life does, and also much more easily (moving a slider on a bar in a program is much easier than actually losing weight, for example). I don’t see a scenario where VR doesn’t become huge *unless* the technology simply fails to deliver.
Prof. Hale,
WHY should Blacks care about those other areas of the world? Their American citizens, and are concerned with their own situation, and rightly so. Please explain?
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Sex technologies, by 2020, will be quite compelling. If World of Warcraft and Internet porn are already addictive relative to their predecessors from a decade earlier, wait until these technologies become available.
After these technologies arrive, 8s will be treated like 5s, and women below this rank will be invisible to men. Furthermore, 35 year old women will also be invisible even be invisible to 50 year old men (who may have enough money to buy 5 sexbots).
The only way women will be able to compete is if they learn how to make a man feel LOVED. That is the one thing a real woman can do that a sexbot/hologram cannot. Women will be forced to rediscover this lost art, just like men are forced to learn Game.
Right, and it could, like “flying cars” or the “virtual reality” video games we were supposed to have by 2010, back in 1990.
Cless Alvein’s naive optimism is present here again.
Men want to have loving wives (real, human wives) and children. A sexual robot can’t fulfill this need
Nor can most women. That is what you don’t get. Most women do NOT create happiness in men, but rather use men as providers, providing much less in return. Your mistake is that you think that all women are able to provide what men want from women. They cannot – most women fall far short.
Plus, your statement implies that a woman’s looks are not a factor. They are. If we can mass produce virtual 10s, then the market value of beauty goes down because the supply rises.
Only the minority of women who know how to make a man feel loved, will be able to sustain market value after these sex technologies become available.
we could see “escapism†on a scale never seen before.
Of course. The men who spend money going to bars, clubs, and strip clubs will simply stop going there.
I agree, many women can’t offer what men really want because they don’t even know what love is. Put simply, love is when another person’s well being is vital to one’s own. That simple truth is miles above the typical woman’s head today. My own ex-wife was using me as a provider, and nothing more. Which is why I divorced her, and why I have not dated or remarried since. From that point on, I look at women as good for one thing only, namely sex. Otherwise I don’t want them to go away mad, I just want them to go away. Many men would rather be with a woman who makes them feel loved than be with a woman who’s beautiful but an ice queen towards them. I however did get enough game to see women as they really are, and treat them as such. But I will never be foolish enough to get married again, especially here in the U.S.
I actually get that. I agree with you. Many women are pretty awful, as are a lot of men, and not suited to long-term relationships at all. However, I think most men are willing to take the risks involved in finding, and keeping, one of the good ones. If they really thought that women, love, and marriage were so awful, they could be castrated, or learn how to self-produce orgasms better than most sexual ones. They don’t, because they’re after something that involves another person: love.
Men take risks. In the bad old days, when only 2/5 of us got to reproduce, we had to. One of those gambles is falling in love and getting married. If you succeed and make the right choices, it’s one of the best things in life. If you fail badly, you get your heart and your wallet shredded. We can argue about whether this is a wise or a stupid risk to take, but I don’t think “sexbot” technology is going to stop a sizeable number of men from doing so.
A number of men would use (sufficiently realistic and artificially intelligent) sexbots for practice and lessons during dry spells, in order to improve their sex lives with real women, and decrease the likelihood of future dry spells.
So that they can maintain the facade that their “outrage” is something more than crass self-centered behavior that masks inner desperation over the realization that most of them have caused the circumstances of their personal failures?…
I’m just say…
Wow. Owned.
However, I think most men are willing to take the risks involved in finding, and keeping, one of the good ones.
The only solution for this is Game. You do not yet fully grasp what Game is and that it is essential for monogamous marriages too.
A number of men would use (sufficiently realistic and artificially intelligent) sexbots for practice and lessons during dry spells,
So a sexbot who is a 10 will be used for practice in preparation for a real woman who is a 5? Get real.
Sex technologies will greatly destroy and reverse the power advantage that women have, forcing women to become far better (and better looking) people. It is odd that more than a few men are being ‘Jewish Nazis’ and not welcoming this.
Cless Alvein,
No reputed futurist said that there would be ‘flying cars’, or that there would be VR in 2010, as stated in 1990. Don’t make crap up to avoid having to face facts.
There will be decent VR by 2020. That is certain.
Nagging and putdowns make a man feel worse than sex after the second or third year of marriage feels good.
So where is the upside? Love?
Cless Alvein is still struggling with the notion of what is desirable vs. what is probable.
Again, sex technologies DON’T REPLACE LOVE. But they do replace the vast majority of relationships where the woman is not providing love to the man.
Sex technologies will force women to learn how to deliver real love, in order to be competitive. Much like men learn Game. When 8s are treated like 5s and 6s are treated like 3s, men without Game will stop wasting money on dinners, drinks, and fancy gifts. THEREFORE, women will have to do much more to DEMONSTRATE THEY ARE DESIRABLE RELATIONSHIP PROSPECTS outside of sex.
Cless Alvein partially grasps what is going on, but can’t bring himself to admit that women NEED to improve their behavior, and that sex technologies will force this improvement. Nor does Cless Alvein realize that divorce laws are extremely rigged against the man. Dehumanizingly so.
That will change when he gets put through the shredder called divorce court. There it’s all about separating a man from his children and money, not justice and certainly not the best interests of children. Sex technologies will never replace love as you have said, but many humans never understand what love really is, unless perhaps they’re facing their own deaths or that of a close relative. If women truly want love, they will have relearn the simple truth that to get love you have to give love.
Add in the tectonic right-wing shift in attitudes brought on by the New Depression, in which beta providers demand either smaller government / lower taxes or do a John Galt strike.
The result is far less tax-payer cuckoldry to protect women from the consequences of their shitty behaviour.
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