The fairer sex (hat tip:Â Cliff Arroyo), my dick:
The sister of Premiership footballer Calum Davenport yesterday mouthed the words ‘I love you’ to the man accused of repeatedly stabbing her brother in the legs in a race row.
The West Ham defender is alleged to have made it clear he disapproved of her relationship with Worrell Whitehurst, who is mixed race.
Police were called to the semi-detached home of his pregnant sister, Cara, following the arrival of Whitehurst.
Both men then left the property but Davenport, 26, was later found in a pool of blood outside his mother’s nearby home in Bedford.
Whitehurst, 25, was charged with grievous bodily harm at Bedford Magistrates’ Court.
Miss Davenport, 28, who is expecting his baby, attended the hearing, clearly showing a black eye. She sobbed as he was brought up from the cells and mouthed ‘I love you’.
Davenport suffered severe bleeding following the attack in the early hours of Saturday. His mother Kim Stupple, 49, was also hurt in the incident.
There are still fears Davenport may lose a leg, despite four hours of emergency surgery at Bedford Hospital. He remains in a ‘serious but stable’ condition.
The loving couple:
There are two types of people in this world. There are people who think that women are the better sex, the more moral sex, the sex that is closer to God. And there are people who know what’s what.
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What’s particularly disturbing about Whitehurst is that he stabbed Davenport repeatedly in the legs and only the legs. Whitehurst’s clear intent was to ruin Davenport’s career and thus deprive him of future earnings well into seven figures.
It’s a sickening crime. A stabbing resulting from a heated argument is bad enough, but to purposely target someone’s livelihood and their biggest talent in life is horrific. It’s mind boggling that Davenport’s sister isn’t horrified as well, given the targeted nature of Whitehurst’s assault.
Jesus, I didn’t know the full details of this incident. I just knew the footballer had beef with his sister’s man, and the bf in turn with the footballer.
The fact that he also appears to be abusing his pregnant girlfriend (maybe she just smacked her head off something) shows the extreme irrationality ‘love’ can cause. Women can be just as AFC (would that be chumpess?) with the ‘right’ sort of man.
The sort of woman who gets into a relationship with a man like that and carries his child is not likely to be that sort of woman…
You will be very disappointed to know that the advice maven from the Washington Post has declared re woman a racist for not wanting to date a black man. We are waiting for the advice columnist to declare the next advisee a homophobe for not wanting to date a lesbian.
In other stories it appears that the sister, a few years ago at age 23-24, got knocked up by another African-Englishman, who subsequently went on a crime spree with another white young woman and a couple of other clowns, resulting in a life sentence for the gent and a 14-year bit for the new girlfriend. The sister, meanwhile, had the baby, and kept it, in 2005. Now 28, she’s taken up with another part African man, who by the way also was a bit of a football player but never made it into the big leagues like the sister’s younger brother. Now she’s 5 months pregnant with this gent’s offspring. No word on wedding bans. (“What are they?” ask the liberated English women.)
Now, pace Malthusianist, yes, the stabbing in the legs was particularly heinous. Basically it was torture. Stories say the younger brother was upset at his sister for taking up with this man –another by the way, the latest beau is the youngest of the three, at 25. No matter. So there’s a row late on Saturday night at the white soccer player’s mom’s house (unclear if she’s the mum to the sister; also unclear is exactly where sister lives –does she crash and mooch off mom and, indirectly perhaps, off the successful brother?).
Then boyfriend and a younger buddy COME BACK.
To me it sounds like a pure, sadistic, bullying play, not merely to get rid of the brother (kill him), nor break his financial power (why not just cut an Achilles tendon (oh, yeah, that’s right, brains these guys don’t have)), but to BREAK HIM. There were multiple stabbings. It was torture. They wanted the soccer player to know he was losing his career, his fortune, his relative power (which he was apparently using for good) in the family dynamic WHILE they were taking that power away from him. Killing him they knew would yield a longer sentence. No intent to kill = mitigating circumstance = under current English anarcho-tyranny a four-five year bit (with conjugal visits?) followed by being on the dole, maybe a book-deal…. Yes, the assailants are idiots, but the thought must have crossed their mind, and I’m sure you’ll hear it in court later, “We didn’t mean to kill him.” Nah, we just meant to torture him, punk him, leave him a shell, destroy him, push him around, have our way…. you know….
Females live by a dual code of morality; it’s just us males who try to be universalists with our principles. To whit, every HBD/conservative/libertarian blog/site I’ve seen is pro-equal rights and equal treatment, equal access to all institutions. Females, rather, want set-asides and favoritism for themselves and their beloved disadvantaged. It all comes down to the dual code.
It’s a sickening crime. A stabbing resulting from a heated argument is bad enough, but to purposely target someone’s livelihood and their biggest talent in life is horrific.
Are you insane? Where there is life, there is hope. Lots of men with no future in “football” have long, productive and financially rewarding lives. Killing someone is a lot worse and more permanent than maiming. The more likely reason for stabbing the guys legs is that he was resisting being stabbed.
Listen fellas (and lady): I really hope we’re not gonna go down the “HBD” route here. Last time I checked the Hooligans and Chavs are just as bad and in some ways worse than any African-descended Brit. And of course, there ARE good Black Brits, don’t you know.
For my money, Whitehurst’s a jerk and a criminal, fullstop. It’s got nothing to do w/his racial background. As for his soon to be baby mama, hey we all know the deal. Women get seriously wet fo violent Men. Whatcha gonna do.
Anyway, let’s keep our eyes on the prize and not get bogged down in racial scapegoating, hmm?
The Obsidian
Hah. You want to know what’s really twisted? The baby isn’t Whitehurst’s. She got knocked up by some other guy who is now in prison for a string of armed robberies.
“For my money, Whitehurst’s a jerk and a criminal, fullstop. It’s got nothing to do w/his racial background.”
Yup, blacks just happen to engage in violent crime at 10 times the rate of whites everywhere they are found. Nothing to do with their “racial background”. I’m sure there’s an astrological explanation for it.
Hi Mike,
Actually, I do have the horoscope for the moment the first African slaves were offloaded at Jamestown VA here in the States. The chart represents American Slavery, and by extension, the African American people. Just for kicks, here’s the data:
Aug 30 1619 10.15AM LMT Jamestown VA. Ascendant is 4 degrees Scorpio, courtesy of astrologer Marc Penfield, taken from his chapter “Lincoln, the South & Slavery” from the anthology “Astrology Looks at History”, Llewellyn Publications.
The chart is quite interesting-Mars rises in the Scorpio Asc and opposes a Taurean Moon-Pluto conjunction, the axis squared by Venus in Leo at the apex of the horoscope.
So yea, Black folks not only tend to be stronger, faster, and more atheletic than Whites, we also tend to have quicker tempers. Which can lead to increased criminality.
I know for a fact that at 5’8″, 170lbs, I’m faster and stronger than most White males my size and age. Yet I’m not a criminal. Hmm. Wonder why.
And for that matter, I wonder why millions of other African Americans aren’t criminals, but everyday, upstanding citizens. Ever occur to you to think about that, Mike?
Or, when it comes to the UK, has it ever occured to you to think of why its worst criminals, as a group, tend to be lower class Whites, aka “Chavs”? Or why, when soccer matches are held, the only ones doing all the vomiting, destroying property and fighting, are White “Hooligans”?
Trust me Mike, I don’t need you or any other otherwise loser White dude to remind me of the reality of Black crime. I live it everyday of my life.
The bottomline is that just like there are good Black folks here in the States and have been for a longtime, the same can be said accross the pond. I know because I actually know good Black Brits.
Maybe if you tried hard enough, you’d know a few too.
The Obsidian
Ya, the UK (and rest of the Anglosphere) have done such a good job of hero-worshipping Black men and proselytizing anti-White male hate speech now – that all the hot White womyn there now will do anything to get knocked up by Black men (and vice-versa)…while they can do no wrong and get a free pass to effectively get away with murder.
White limey men are probably the sorriest lot of nutless self-hating, cuckolding manginas in the world, right now.
the sister, a few years ago at age 23-24, got knocked up by another African-Englishman, who subsequently went on a crime spree with another white young woman and a couple of other clowns, resulting in a life sentence for the gent and a 14-year bit for the new girlfriend. The sister, meanwhile, had the baby, and kept it, in 2005. Now 28, she’s taken up with another part African man, who by the way also was a bit of a football player but never made it into the big leagues like the sister’s younger brother. Now she’s 5 months pregnant with this gent’s offspring.
Yup, you see this same story repeated over and over and over in Britain. Young White females pumping out half-Black babies, with no fathers and forcing taxpayers to cuckold them all.
Meanwhile, all the White manginas there just sit back and cheer them on, while patting themselves on the backs for being so “non-racist.”
And all the Black dudes are just laughing and assaulting all the way to the welfare & sperm banks…
There are people who think that women are the better sex, the more moral sex, the sex that is closer to God.
Classic example:
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014110.html
Yup. Here he goes again:
The man is made out of mere dust; the woman is made out of the human body. Further, as the last thing God creates in the process of creating the world, the human female is the crown of creation.
And that, folks, is the basis of woman-worshiping manginaism.
Notice how the anti-Sodini ranters are so totaly silent about this.
Auster is a goof. For one thing, Christian or non alike, understand that Genesis is a fairy tale. There was no Adam, no Eve, and no Virginia, Mitochondrial Eve was not the first woman, nor was Y chromosome Adam the first man, nor did they even live at the same time.
If , in order to be a SOCON, I have to throw out modern science in order to worship women’s “feminine essance” {the atheistic feminists couldn’t have said it better} than I want nothing to do with such a stupid false philosophy. I’m about ready to not even take Auster seriously anymore. It was bad enough that I was starting to doubt his character, now I doubt his mind.
I can appreciate what makes me human while also appreciating what makes me animal. And I think our women are pretty cute for evolved primates. I suppose a purple people eater feels the same way about his females. Then again, maybe it is just universally true: Earthgirls are easy!
No one has had to “brainwash” White women into lusting after Black or partially Black guys. Almost every White woman I know found Black guys extremely sexually desirable, because of low body fat and high muscle mass, and relatively higher levels of testosterone, particularly in pro athletes. Michael Jordan being a favorite, one women regularly drooled over.
A guy like say, Dirk Nowicki may be as equally athletically talented, but his relatively higher body fat percentage and perceived anyway lower levels of testosterone make him less “sexy” than say, Iverson or Ron Artest. On the flip side, Bruce Lee underwent a brutal weight training regimen to develop the “hooded” back look to become more dominant/masculine on-screen, which may have led to his death, indirectly, from stroke.
“Diversity” creates winners and losers in the global sexual marketplace just as global trade creates winners and losers in the global labor marketplace. In the latter, skilled Chinese and Indian knowledge workers get more money while those in the US, Japan, and Germany (and other first world nations) get considerably less. For women, Black women in competition with White and Asian women generally lose, and find White and Asian men “unsexy” and not dominant/testosterone laden enough. Hispanic women are generally in the middle, generally dating/marrying fellow Hispanics, and White and Asian women “win” with Black, Hispanic, men offering significantly more testosterone and dominance than White and Asian men, making (as in the labor market) only the “stars” of White and Asian men “winners” with the rest basically “semi-employed” at best.
So basically White and Asian women “win” in diversity driven sexual marketplaces, and Black Women, and Asian and White men lose.
Agreed. Which is why all men experience a net loss from Black immigration.
Black men prefer to simply knock up as many women as they can, and often show a preference for non-Black women. They rarely use condoms because of this, and so also spread STDs the most. They also prefer to assume no parental duties though and force the rest of society to cuckold all their young. So, they increase sexual competition for females and collective burdens for raising their bastard young.
Meanwhile, most men (including many Black men) don’t find Black women that attractive, so a Black population increases the viable male numbers, while not increasing the viable female numbers – leading to a much higher m/f ratio and imbalance.
Basically, it’s a double-whammy, just sexually-speaking.
Throw in all the social costs and drains too…with nothing productive in return…and you have a huge negative. Which is why Africa is a pre-Stone Age hellhole. And the Africanization of non-Black countries shifts those societies into the sme direction, as well…
No offense to “good” Black fellas like Obsidian here. We are talking on the macro, not micro, level here.
It’s interesting though that mostly white women are attracted to black men on a level of race fetishization. I don’t see too many Asian-Black, Indian-Black, Other-Black couples, mostly White-Black. If testosterone was the exclusive explanatory factor, wouldn’t Asians/Indians/Other also flock to high-T black men?
It’s also not “all” White women – but primarily White women raised in the ZionAnglosphere (Britain, US & AUS). Again, these are the areas where Black men are propelled to hero/demigod status, and White/Asian males are castigated as all sorts of evil…
Where Black American men are allowed to be the most chauvinist, misogynist men ridiculously possible with no blowback from feminists…while White/Asian manginas can do nothing to avoid their constant criticism. End result is that Black men are allowed to be real caveMEN, while White/Asian men are guilt-tripped and brow-beaten into feminist doormats.
Er, right, that’s what I meant, *primarily* white women are seen engaging in interracial dating with black men. Even if those does occur primarily in the Anglosphere, I still don’t see too many Asian/Indian/Other paired with Black men, but why not if high testosterone is the explanatory factor for these pairings?
Well, while young Black men score high in testosterone, they score low in about every other metric out there from looks to IQ to behavior. So, they are not really a natural choice for most women, in general.
The real question is why ZionAnglo women often prefer them, given all their obvious faults? Not why others don’t (for obvious reasons).
No offence taken Byrdeye.
What’s interesting in this line of reason you and others have developed here, is that historically the Anglosphere was the least racially intergrated, sexually or otherwise. Compare and contrast to places like Brazil, which almost from Day One had heavy amounts of sexual interbreeding taking place among the White Portugese, African slaves, and indigenous Indian tribes.
This leads me to the next point, and one that I’d been meaning to get to for sometime now-what I find fascinating among many of my White brothers in the Gamesphere, is that many of them openly profess an allegiance to, or at the least an affinity for, the Conservative worldview-which at its center, holds the view that the Individual is sancrosanct. That being the case, it is up to the individual to make the most of his station or lot in life, that w/persistance, hardwork and a basic level playing field, he can achieve his heart’s desires.
But this Rugged Individualism seems to dissapear as soon as Game and that which makes it possible coms up-the same Men who bemoaned Obama’s bailout policies and proposed “Obamacare” program, under the rubric that both are tanatmount to a kind of Socialism, suddenly don’t seem to have much of a problem re-imposing a kind of Socialism in the sexual marketplace to benefit primarily White Beta Males! The argument is in essence, “we can’t compete, so we need Women to be constrained sexually again”.
Now, can someone please explain to me how one reconciles these vastly divergent worldviews?
Now, I’m a Capitalist, a Conservative, and an American. I believe in the Free Market, and I know going in, that not everyone will win. The very nature of such a sytem means, that there will be winners and losers-which was why I not only didn’t vote for Obama, but I was deadset against his bailout and Obamacare programs. The American system-which is truly unique in the history of the world-is based on a melding of democratic principles and a free market economy. And as such, the reason why its been so succesful, is because it respects Human Nature-both the good, and the bad.
Game to me closely mirrors this unique “experiment” that is America, when you think about it-though its “modern father” Mystery was Canadian born, the way he went about making his discoveries and insights, marketing them and so on, are ripped right from a Horatio Alger reader. American, through and through.
Whiskey is right-not only is there a sexual marketplace, but there will be winners and losers in said marketplace-and since no one who gets a taste of freedom wants to or will “go back” once they get a taste, we have to now consider what this changed landscape will mean for all of us. No amount of SocialConlike tilting at ideological windmills is going to change anything. Women, whether we like it or not, simply no longer need a provider anymore-its a nice plus, to be sure-but they don’t NEED it. Which means, their mating choices no longer have to take this into account. Right or wrong, good or bad, that’s the fact, Jack.
In the past, and I mean about a half century ago, all a Man needed was a good steady job, and to be a good provider, and the Woman he got with was expected to “learn to love him” as the years wore on. And in many cases, that’s what happened.
That’s not the world in which we live now.
Today, Women’s expectations have changed, and for the most part, have increased dramatically. Most Women will simply not accept what their mom and grandmom’s did-and truth be told, their moms and grandmoms were the biggest ones telling their daughters to BE independent so they didn’t HAVE to endure what they did.
So, since being a provider is off the table, other selection criteria has to come into play to fill the void. That’s where Game comes in, because it gives a Man the tools with which to viably compete in today’s dating atmosphere, with a real chance of success. It’s not perfect, nor can it cure cancer, but for most guys who apply any part of its system, they will notice an uptick in the love and sex department.
While many of my White brothers lament the changed landscape for Today’s Woman, I have to agree with my Brotha Assanova-why not celebrate the fact that a Woman no longer chooses you based on what you do and/or make-why not celebrate that she can be attracted to you, for you?
That’s what I focus on in my operations, and with my current lady. Because trust me, money will not and cannot help Women in the same way that it still can help a Man-evolutionarily speaking, it doesn’t really mean that much to her that she can buy her own house, car, etc, et al. It doesn’t have the same cache’ that it holds for and with a Man. And in many ways, it brings a significant amount of lonliness and unhappiness, because she’s still dealing with guys who are still plugged into the Matrix, so to speak.
There’s more I could add, and if TFH’s reading along I want to thank him for lighting a real spark in me along Astro-Game lines. I may post something more on that tip a bit later.
But Brown Sugah’s just coming out of the shower, and umm, don’t she look good…
The Obsidian
Compare and contrast to places like Brazil, which almost from Day One had heavy amounts of sexual interbreeding taking place among the White Portugese, African slaves, and indigenous Indian tribes.
And you know where that’s led to, right? Favelas – the diverse liberal utopia.
Well, there is no conflict between Game and politics. Game simply focuses on individual action on a micro-level, whereas politics represents collective action on a macro-level. Both can and do profoundly influence your quality-of-life, and there is no reason why they need to be mutually-exclusive.
Also, as I’ve explained before, I would be fine with true free-market sexuality. But that’s NOT what it is now – with all the thug/sloot subsidies like affirmative action. welfare, women’s shelters, soon universal Obamacare, etc etc. All of these basically redistribute (steal) hard-won resources from beta males to alpha thugs and sloots. Not to mention all the liberal propaganda (and resulting peer-pressure) hero-worshipping thugs and stigmatizing conservative betas. As well as feminist blockades against female beta-loving imports and competition via negative campaigning and IMBRA/VWA legislation.
No sir, the sexual marketplace is anything BUT fair and FREE right now!!!! Please don’t delude yourself here! It is totally RIGGED to promote thug/sloot relationships.
Really, all I’m asking for here is for all this BS government interference to be REMOVED so that we CAN HAVE A FAIR GAME. I think in that scenario, you will probably have a good balance of women seeking responsible betas vs irresponsible alpha thugs. Instead of totally lopsided due to the systematic tilting of the table.
There are in fact significant amounts of Asian-Black couples, and White-Black European couples. Of the former, Tiger Woods (Black Air Force Colonel Father, Thai mother) is the best known example.
Asian families exert considerable pressure to marry within acceptable boundaries. White guys sort of push the acceptable envelope, one of the consequences of increased migration from Asian nations to the US has been the lessening of the out-marrying tendencies of Asian women. Currently only Nisei and later generations of Japanese ancestry women tend to out-marry, and that is likely because of the relatively small pool of Japanese men in the US.
The guys from Milli Vanilli (White German mothers, Black US servicemen fathers) are examples of European pairings. Generally, the more atomic and anonymous a society is, the more women can pursue testosterone or at least perceived testosterone, without social pressure. Americanized Asian women in the US DO in fact have kids with Black and Hispanic men, particularly when families are a time zone away.
Life at Ground Zero in the ZionAnglosphere: Worst Teens In The World, full of Africanized thugs and their wannabe-chavs.
First, in places like New Orleans, there was always racial mixing and children of obvious mixed race heritage. Jelly Roll Morton being perhaps one of the better known examples.
BUT … the objections to ObamaCare and the sexual marketplace winners and losers are not that of socialism, but losing.
ObamaCare proposes to take money spent on older White Americans, ration that to nothing, and spend it on young Black and Hispanic people. That is the heart of the struggle and why he is dropping in the polls, being “a race man” first and foremost, and untrusted by the White Majority on that matter of winning and losing which is central.
The sexual marketplace creates winners (Black Men, White and Asian Women) and losers (Asian and White Men, Black women), with some breaking even (Hispanics of both sexes). What people do when they lose is try and win. And if the game is rigged against them — change the game! This is known as crony capitalism, or socialism, or Marxism, or Royal Rule, many names, same thing.
Asian Men and Black Women are too small numerically to have an impact. The way that White men can game the system so that they win is basically, “Chavism plus.” This means “controlling their women” i.e. territorial defense, with the kind of casual beat-downs for “intruding on territory” that mark say Gang disputes. Of course middle class White guys in cubicles don’t do this, but they are being Mancessioned into proto-chavs, so there’s that. The other is the violence veto imposed on women.
Obsidian you are right when you say that currently, women’s behavior cannot be changed. It can however be “managed” the way British Chavs and Ghetto Black guys “manage” it — through Chris Brown beat-downs. Now, that does not happen with middle class White guys with something to lose. But guys who live the Chav life? What’s a six month jail sentence to them?
Currently the amount of perceived “losing” by White guys to Black guys is relatively low, given self-segregation at work, residential life, and so on. If that were to significantly increase along with increased permanent White male underemployment/unemployment, we look at disasters in the making. Women currently live in the temporary and fragile transition from a middle class, non-violent society to one characterized by male Chav-ism.
From what I remember before the destruction of the black family the crime was on par with the Irish in America. Bit higher, but not much. A lot of poor white communities are on their way to hell right now too.
Like I keep saying, there has been a noticeable uptick in what was virtually impossible just 10 years ago.
A lot of Asian men with white women. Good looking white women.
White men have no more right to disapprove of this than white women have to disapprove of Asian women with white men (the more traditional pairing).
“Which is why Africa is a pre-Stone Age hellhole?”
Dude, you really don’t know history. Africa has not been in the stone age for 1500 years at least and probably more like 3000 years.
“Black men prefer to simply knock up as many women as they can, and often show a preference for non-Black women. They rarely use condoms because of this, and so also spread STDs the most. They also prefer to assume no parental duties though and force the rest of society to cuckold all their young. So, they increase sexual competition for females and collective burdens for raising their bastard young.”
This is the path poor black men are following, and chaves, and American poor whites (White trash). It’s also not a path that can be followed by a larger society. It would last 5 minutes in Africa and anywhere else. It’s only kept afloat by outside power.
Listen to me, poor Blacks are not more fucked up than the rest of us. They just reached this point faster than everyone else (at least in America).
Being a European used to meant that babes from every culture wanted to have babies with you. Now that Western Civilization is dying women are choosing those babies from else ware. Just like men today lack confidence, our entire civilization lacks it.
Why would a women procreate with a group that has no confidence?
Obsidian:
I’m pretty new to all this, and I have not particpated in these dicussions, but I think you are slightly mischaracterizing their world view in order to create this apparent tension.
1. They advocate free market economics because it shown (with limited exceptions for cases of market distortions) that it beats the alternatives and creates the most prosperous and stable societies.
2. I think that, for the most part, they do not advocate free market sexual marketplaces, because, in their view, the sexual preferences that women (and, for that matter men) evolved tens of thousands of years ago (or more) do not lend themselves to stable and prosperous modern societies, and, in particular, women will behave completely contrary to their own (and society’s) interests but will find ways to rationalize their apparent preference for volunteering for soft polygamy. In other words, while you can assume that people, by and large, will be rational economic actors, you cannot assume they will be rational sexual actors, since these decisions are governed by very different parts of the brain (and, in the case of sexual decisions, complicated by hormones). But given the realities of the marketplace that has been created (which they don’t condone), they advocate “game” (what a lame name, by the way) as a way of negating some of that, but they would prefer instead not to have the unrestrained free market place, let alone a marketplace that is irrationally biased by government toward alpha males because of the laws mentioned below.
3. This problem is exacerbated by governmental policies (welfare laws and “misandrist” divorce laws) that strongly encourage women to indulge their irrational evolved preferences that are more suited to a distant past. So, in addition to the problems in 2 above, we don’t even have a true sexual marketplace, but one further distorted to favor the so-called “alphas” and further distorted to remove (or grealy water down) any natural consequence of irrational female choices. To speficially address your point regarding the resentment of the white on black stuff, I would point out that, while the black male they describe (assuming that the generalization is at all accurate) is rationally enhancing his own reproductive success, he is quite often doing so at the taxpayers’ expense (typically white beta taxpayers), and women who indulge him this honor (white or black) are to varying degrees encouraged by government policy to do so. Alternatively, they are encouraged to divorce their white beta husbands for a white bad boy knowing full well that the beta ex will be essentially forced at gunpoint to financially support these new lovebirds. I have a business acquaintance who has been basically supporting his ex and the guy she left him for for a few years now. Gravy train ends in a year or two, but he’ll still have child support to continue, and I assume she’ll figure out a way to leverage that to support herself and whoever makes her tingle at that time.
4. I suspect there is also some good old fashioned tribalism involved. And I’m quite certain that black men would react similarly if white guys were stealin’ all the black women and knocking them up, and then, to add insult to injury, working black guys were forced to pay for it. I know asian guys didn’t much like it when white guys did it with their gals, but it wasn’t considered racist for them to object to this since it’s never racist to object to white behavior. It was just “totally understandable and natural” that they would feel somewhat resentful. By the way, have you noticed how there are a lot more cocky asian bad boy types, and less nerdy types, than their used to be? But, this is besides the point a bit. The point is, there is no inherent tension between (i) advocating free market economics while not advocating unrestrained free market sexual choices, and, in particular, not advocating the forced financial support of other people’s unrestrained sexual choices but (ii) faced with the reality of a govermental distorted free market in sexual choice, advocating “game” to attempt to level the playing field.
To me, all of this “Game can save western civilization” stuff smacks a bit of Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure, when they fantasized about the excellence of their garage band (White Stallion?) inspiring peace and harmony throughout the universe. But it’s still fun reading, and I’ve reluctantly concluded that there is an awful lot of truth about women in it. If I weren’t married, I’d follow the Roissy model (assuming I could alter my seemingly instinctual beta behavior in a credible way), rather than the Ferd manifesto. Maybe some day she’ll dump me for a bad boy, and I’ll have to try to go the Roissy route, but I doubt it, and I’m already a bit long in the tooth for it. I’ve already started to opt for my own watered down amatuerish verion of the Dave in Hawaii approach. So far, so good. I never fully appreciated the degree of comfort she gets from being submissive. I think I’ll go home now, turn her over, and spank her till she’s red as a tomato. Game in marriage is, in some ways, a lot easier to undertake, since I don’t have to worry about approach anxiety or coming up with a bunch of phony stories, spells, palm readings or magic tricks. I just come up behind her and put her in a gentle but inescapably firm choke hold, while letting my magnificent bulge brush against her ass. That gets her hot every time. I do need to work on those shit tests, though. If this stuff turns out to really work in social situations, maybe I’ll cuckhold a few of the dads from my kids’ school. lol
Rights have nothing to do with it, any more than say, the crony capitalism of Microsoft or Indonesia has anything to do with rights.
There is only what is, and what is not. People always, ALWAYS act to maximize their outcomes, given their social constraints.
This is the path poor black men are following, and chaves, and American poor whites (White trash). It’s also not a path that can be followed by a larger society. It would last 5 minutes in Africa and anywhere else. It’s only kept afloat by outside power.
Wow, are you serious? Rampant breeding and polygamy is the NORM in Africa, buddy! Why do you think it’s so poor? Because Africans are largely r-gamers…and so that is their genetic nature.
And the more their genes and memes mix with non-Black cultures…the more they Africanize them as well. Hence, the ZionAnglosphere is turning into a wigger/chav nation.
That’s why Jews love to promote hip-hop and Black culture as cool here. To literally dumb us down and turn us into a welfare state dependent upon their future Jew World 0rder. They are merely tooling Blacks in this country to achieve that here, just like they tooled the proletariats in Europe and Asia to overthrow the native rulers there.
Of course, Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQs in the world, so anyone with a lower IQ simply cannot comprehend macro-Game THIS DEEP. To them, they will simply view it with disbelief as a “conspiracy theory.” But to the few individuals with equal or higher IQs than them, they can clearly see a consistent pattern and deliberate plan there.
Anon,
While I deeply thank you for you well thought out comments, I do have a problem with your notion of “rational economic actors” wrt the sexual marketplace-you say that our White brothers don’t trust folk to act rationally in this area, but for some reason they don’t have any concern about it in the economic area either-and if anything, history, including very recent history, proves to us that people are anything BUT “rational” when it comes to their economic interests.
Byrdeye’s views and to an extent yours, wrt “big gov’t keeping me/Betas down” is really a kind of copout. Bottomline is that at the end of the day your happiness is on the line, and if it means that much to you, you find a way around things. Startup a business and go off the grid if you feel that strongly about not wanting to support Black guy’s skeet shooting practice. It can and has been done many times before, and by guys who are obstensibly notably less intelligent than White folks. Get er done.
As for Black guys and their sexual choices, we have to keep in mind the very real prospect of class here-there are lots and lots of middle and upper middle class Black guys who marry similarly placed White Women, and notably lower class Black Men who get with similarly classed White Women. It cuts accross the socioeconomic spectrum, fellas.
And at any rate all of this comes accross as making excuses and finding scapegoats-again. Bottomline-Game is an option for you to live a better quality of life. But its not perfect, nor will it work for everyone. But whatever you do, find something.
Find something.
The Obsidian
Jewish Rap groups like the Beastie Boys are merely the latest love affair that Jews and other Whites alike have had with Black culture. Nerdy Jewish guys and cube dwelling WASPy dweebs (like “Michael Bolton” in Office Space) love Rap’s rampant misogyny, uber-masculine boasting, and gangsta mentality.
It’s not a sign of a “Jewish conspiracy” but the lack of ANY role models culturally for masculinity that is not dweeb “nice guy” emo-dork, or impossible hunkadelic Rom-Com idol. Rap just filled the void for nerdy White guys, and it’s telling that among unself concious Southern White country fans, with their own models of masculinity (fathers and older White guys and Country singers) Rap has little influence, AND White guys get along fine with Black guys. You’ll see this on the football fields, country music loving White guys like and get along with rap-loving Black guys, but don’t feel the need to emulate Black Rap standards of masculinity. Because unlike nerdy urban WASP/Jewish White guys, they don’t have uncertainty about their role, masculine status, and so on.
Obsidian — I think you miss the obvious. White guys WILL GAME THE SYSTEM. But jigger it to favor THEM.
Basically any market place is subject to collusion without regulatory or other pressure to prevent it — price fixing, cartels, cronyism, kickbacks, the like. Along with shakedowns, extortion, and other behaviors. Everyone constantly seeks advantage, there is no “morality” in economics or “right” just actors seeking to maximize benefits.
In a competitive marketplace, territorial chav-ism is probably the most promising gaming of the system. Better even than Game.
There’s no doubt that the artificial, reality-bending programming of Hollywood/MTV/the Jewish-controlled media has had a profound impact on the way Americans, Brits, and Aussies (and by extension, the rest of the world) behave and view racial groups.
I’ve had NUMEROUS foreigners, from China to South Korea to India to Eastern Europe, raised on a steady diet of American media, arrive into the US and ask me…
“Why is it that on American television and films, blacks seem to have HEAVY representation in the most prominent professions (such as scientists, doctors, lawyers, judges, CEOs) — whereas in reality, it’s not the case at all?
On the flipside, I’ve had well-educated white girls from Western and Eastern Europe tell me, “Black men seem very wise, noble, and filled with soul” — when in reality, they didn’t know any black men nor had they ever dated one.
Now there may indeed be top-notch hospitals in the Anglosphere filled to the brim with wise, noble, black doctors saving lives…but the ones I’ve seen are usually crawling with guys named Patel, Gupta, Kim, and Lee.
Now personal game can override racial stereotypes — and I’ve slept with and dated women from pretty much every part of the world (except the Middle East and Africa). But as an East Asian male, I noticed that the QUALITY of poon tang I have been able to obtain, and the EASE and FREQUENCY of sparking attraction, varies DRAMATICALLY by the country/location I happen to be gamin’ in.
As Byrdeye noted, the macro game of global media programming of the masses and culture wars does have a heavy impact on personal game.
Just like the macroeconomics of collapsing US demand for consumer goods will have an impact on a Chinese village boy working at a factory in Guangzhou.
FarEast,
I find your comments interesting but quite limited, in that by your own admission you’ve yet to date or bed or otherwise “run Game” on Women from Africa or the Middle East-thats a huge chunk of female humanity we’re talking about here.
Plus, I still disagree about the idea of “regulating” Women’s sexual behavior; on its face it sounds noble, but at bottom its really a cover for the deficiencies, and refusal to address them, on the part of *some* White Men. I say, Mau Up and learn Game.
The Obsidian
I don’t really see what my sexual preference towards Asian/White/Latina women (and not towards Arab/African women) have anything to do with what I wrote?
In any case, I don’t really care to regulate women’s sexual behavior either.
The only thing I was getting at was that macro-level media programming does affect women’s initial ideals of beauty, sexiness, social status, etc. to varying degrees — and to be blunt, the dumber the bitch, the more prone is she to be programmed by the mainstream media.
The other major factor is colonial history. In general, the colonized always seem to look up to the colonizer (even after being liberated), as long as the colonizer is still wealthy and prosperous.
Who’s talking about regulating sex? We’re talking about DEregulating sex by REMOVING thug/sloot suubsidies (affirmative action. welfare, women’s shelters, soon universal Obamacare, media propaganda that fareast refers to, etc) – which were only enacted for no other reason to cover for the deficiencies of these 2 groups (Blacks & women).
Even LBJ admitted this when he enacted the Great (welfare) Society programs – they were merely meant to lift Black people up, regardless of if fair or deserved.
Why do you think affirmative action in undergrad admissions ONLY applies to women & NAMs? But not “over-intelligent” Asians (particularly males)? Who in fact get discriminated against with ceiling quotas.
It is largely with all this government interference that these select groups (Blacks & women) are now prospering and living so large now – at the literal expense of everyone else. Don’t be like a fish who forgets the water because he is so surrounded by it!
A white soccer star trying to protect his sister gets tortured and stabbed by a thug nigger. Any society with guts would have had a bunch of people find that nigger, torture him even worse than the soccerstar was, and beat him to within an inch of his life.
That would send the proper message, but the UK, like the US, is populated by a majority that will not protect its rights or its women.
white women having sex with, dating, marrying outside of their race = disgusting.
when I’m gaming a girl (always white), I specifically ask her if she’s had sex with men of other races or whether or not she thinks it’s okay. If she says yes, game over.
black men will fuck anything including each other and animals. they can’t control it.
I’m getting really sick of blacks with white women. I will make my presence known.
Jack says:”A white soccer star trying to protect his sister gets tortured and stabbed by a thug nigger.”
You have an interesting – if rather deluded – conception of what constitutes “protection”.
I must confess I cannot see the protective aspect in Davenport driving (whilst drunk) to his sister’s house at 2am with his dad for backup, then headbutting her several times, biting her and throwing her down the stairs. Given that she was pregnant with a mixed race child, this last action speaks for itself – more attempted murder than protection.
“Protection” is a term more accurately used to describe the actions of the boyfriend – something that any real man would do when his woman has been thus abused.
The racist epithet employed simply shows that this respondent has issues of his/her own that preclude any rational overview.
As sick as his/er remarks are, I had to laugh at the last comment; “the UK, like the US, is populated by a majority that will not protect its rights or its women”!!
Perhaps it had escaped your notice my clueless racist friend, but it was the drunken white thug who assaulted a woman; when faced with the wrath of a real man he took to trying to hide behind his mother’s skirts!
For all the anti-Semitic and racist BS put forth on this page (some of it quite erudite, but one-eyed, nonetheless), the simple facts are that a drunken racist thug took his anger out on a defenceless pregnant woman, and the woman’s boyfriend reacted in the way any red-blooded male of any race would.
Women are closer to nature and detached from God, women are the amoral sex, woman are sex.
“I must confess I cannot see the protective aspect in Davenport driving (whilst drunk) to his sister’s house at 2am with his dad for backup, then headbutting her several times, biting her and throwing her down the stairs. ”
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